TUT Fan Mail, Dec 2, 2016
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Dec 2, 2016
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Written like a true rabbi would write, in fear of the truth now being exposed. When we finally do come together rabbi, and we will, your lies will be fully exposed.
Sabba, you’re the greatest. 🙂 Please keep up the great work.
Sincerely,
The New Testament and Koran Brotherhood Society. (NTKBS)
OMG what a nut! We love you, Sabba! I am sure this is not the first time you have gotten something like this. You rock, sis, big hugs, keep up the good work. 🙂
This “person” had to be on mushrooms and/or LSD to write this. lol
Keep up the good work Sabba. It is greatly appreciated.
what can be said other than ‘oh my…’
sad to say, the times in which we live bring these types out. everything is off kilter (is that how it’s spelled?) and nothing seems to be functioning properly. Like a top spinning off its axis that starts to wobble, humanity, both at the individual and societal level, do likewise, and the further along things go, the worse it gets.
If my Sunday school memories are correct, Jesus did warn about those who would presume to speak for him in the ‘latter’ days, recommending that his true flock not be seduced into following them. I’d say that our commentor here falls within that category.
Personally, I love all of Sabba’s posts and commentary and as a Christian have never been offended by anything she has said. It is obvious she loves Jesus and as far as I am concerned, that’s good enough for me.
Wow….this was quite a rant indeed. Truth is Mike, I’ve stopped my subscription a while ago for partially same reasons this individual went on a rant for. I reiterate, although I support and have often praised your work to others when it comes to catholicism (and please correct me if i’m wrong but I think you are Catholic Mike) you’re interpretations of the New Testament was very questionable to me throughout the years. I know you’re a big boy so you understand I’m coming from a brotherly approach Mike but your Catholic-Islamic approach is naive from a Catholic standpoint and your knowledge of Church teachings is below par. Although we (Catholics and Persians who follow Islam) share a common enemy I’m not about to throw Church teaching on Islam under the bus in order to appease Islamists. Again, you do great work reporting Mike, but please leave the Catholic interpretations to someone w/a fuller knowledge of Catholic Church.
Respectfully,
ed note–ok, first things first–
1. Thank you for your respectful posture, which is always appreciated in a business where nastiness seems to be the first requisite for anyone wanting to participate in any kind of political discussion.
2. My name is Mark, not Mike, at least, last time I checked.
3. Can’t conceive for a moment what kind of ‘controversy’ might have erupted over any discussion on my part concerning the NT. Concerning the OLD Testament however, I have had quite a few ‘controversial’ things to say, although for the life of me, like the notion that the earth is round rather than flat, I can’t understand how anyone employing even an ounce of the brains which God gave them could see these things as controversial.
As far as the ‘church teachings’ concerning Islam–I heard them all growing up, having spent 12 years in Catholic school– ‘Conversion by the sword’, ‘jihad,’ ‘infidels,’ etc, etc, etc.
Then, I did this really ‘controversial’ thing and read some books on the topic written by people who knew their material, and guess what I found out?
Historically and factually, the Church was wrong vis a vis what it taught about the history, beliefs and practices of Islam. Dead wrong, just as much as you calling me ‘Mike’ and ascribing some ‘controversy’ involving me and the New Testament.
Christian/Islamic alliance? It’s gonna happen whether we like it or not, (although as far as the West is concerned I think the numbers of Christians climbing on board are going to be pathetically low) so you might as well get used to it, Catholic teachings on the matter or not, because the survival of the world is at stake and there are some people who understand this, i.e. the Russians, Iranians, Syrians, Lebanese, etc, where indeed this ‘Crescent and Cross Solidarity’ is already a fait accompli and proving itself marvelously on the killing fields of Syria where this Christian/Islamic alliance is busy hunting down and exterminating the laboratory-created hyenas known as ISIS who are killing every living thing in their path, save the Jews, of course.
respectfully,
mg
Thank you all for your kind words.
I would like, if I may, add something which Jesus Disciple and APJG may have missed.
When we speak of a ‘Crescent & Cross’ Solidarity, we are NOT speaking about syncretism.
Christianity and Islam are under attack by the same forces of darkness who wants to see both destroyed so that they can then impose on us the Noahide laws.
If Islam and Christianity want to survive, they have no choice but to make an alliance, to join forces to defeat the synagogue of Satan.
We are talking geo-political strategy and NOT theological disputation.
We are talking geo-political alliance and NOT a fusion of both religions.
There is but one divergent belief between in Islam and Christianity. And yes, it is a major one.
But there are many more common points between them than there are differences, especially in terms of values & code of ethics.
Jesus, the Son of Man (i.e., the Son of Adam?) is Christ, Christ being his title, not his name.
And there are only 2 groups of people on Earth who recognize Jesus as Christ: the Christians and the Muslims.
This is a major point which most Christians seem to be unaware of, preferring a ‘judeo-Christian’ alliance with those who call Jesus the son of a whore.
Muslims and Christians all believe in Jesus’s Messiahship and that should be a strong enough point to unite us all under the banner of Christ to defeat the forces of the Anti-Christ (Dajjal).
But even without that, we are all under attack, we are all facing extermination: shouldn’t we all unite and fight back?
@ APPJG: what you call ‘islamism’ is wahhabism.
And, in case you do not know it yet, wahhabism is JUDAISM with a Muslim mask just like protestantism is judaism with a Christian mask.
The Muslims all reject wahhabism as being part of either Sunni or Shia Islam.
Wahhabism or islamism as you call it, Sharia law etc. are only a smokescreen to hide the real threat: the synagogue of satan Talmudic noahide laws…
Again, we do not have many choices ahead of us: either unite and fight back or accept the Noahide Laws.
It is that simple.
Thank you again to all for your kind words and support.
Mucho love and hugs.
Sabba.
PS: Sabba is the French (and also Spanish/Italian/Portuguese) equivalent to Sheba.
You say ‘the queen of Sheba’, we say ‘la reine de Sabba’.
It should be spelt with one B but my parents thought it looked better with 2 B!
I suppose this comment by me will lend credence to my daughters’ use of “anal” as it applies to me, but: when I opened my mail, in addition to numerous other spelling, typo, syntactical et al errors, I was amused that “Jesus Disciple” twice used “which” for the obviously intended “witch.” My amusement turned to outright befuddlement when I scanned the above text and found that “which” had twice morphed to an even-more-egregious “wich”…wich leads me to ask “What gives?”
Sabba, you certainly riled that one. It is amazing how much venom these folks can drum up at times. He sure does not represent any Jesus I know of unless it is a Heysus in some Mexican gang. Stay strong, your work is solid and important. But you did not need me to tell you that.
I’m pretty sure that “Jesus Disciple” would never dream of addressing one the Chosenoids in such a manner.
Mark, Sabba,
First thing first; Mark, my sincere apology for referring to you as Mike. I realized my mistake as soon as I posted. In my defense, we have 2 kids and I get the pleasure of taking care of the 6 month old at night.
I was a subscriber when Mark Dankof occasionally aired and very much found your shows informative. Having said that, please provide me with references so that I may better educate myself regarding Islam and as you state where the Church was factually incorrect. Having said that, here is one of my issues with your Catholic position, the generalizations. The Catholic Church is The Holy Bride of Jesus Christ and He was not a liar. I’ll grant you that some inside the Church (yes there still are Judases until this day) may have portrayed an inaccurate picture of Islam. I’ll give you that hands down because apparently since the 2nd Vatican Council we’re all supposed to believe that Jews do not need to be proselytized to or that they don’t need to convert and recognize Jesus as the Messiah as per “Nostra Aetate” a non dogmatic and non binding document but a nice pleasantry for those who want to dialect for ever with Jews without having to tell them the truth. Having said that, it is a bold statement to claim most of what you learned regarding Islam in your upbringing was incorrect so in the name of academic integrity please provide me and others here with some references. Although I hold much respect for the Persian culture and history I’m not a Catholic who will compromise my faith or change historical facts in order to make friends for the sole goal of combating a common enemy. I’m curious where the Church is wrong as you claim.
Sabba, you have a beautiful name. I look forward to reading Queen Sheba’s diary/visions someday. I appreciate you differentiating between Islamism and Wahhabism. This offers an insight I previously failed to recognize and that was a very big mistake on my part. Much appreciate it.
Best to you both,
A
ed note, MG–no offense taken for being called Mike. It’s my favorite male name.
As far as the rest, it would be somewhere between difficult and impossible for me to go back some 40+ years and cite all the instances where I was taught in catholic school that Islam was a,b, and c. Suffice it to say however that when 9/11 happened, I was already well-steeped in the history that this was all the result of a religion that was inherently violent and which forced people to convert by the sword.
Then I got hold of a copy of the Koran and began reading it myself and realized that the ‘info’ I had been given was in fact disinfo, handed down over the course of some 1,400 years and disinfo that more than likely had been created for politically-motivated reasons, given the speed with which Islam as a political force spread throughout the middle east, africa and europe in the 7th century.
None of this has anything to do with dogma, Vatican II or the rest. It is/was simply junk history, no different than people recounting the story about how George Washington chopped down a cherry tree when he was young and then when confronted about it, said ‘I cannot tell a lie’, all of which never really happened, and yet millions of people think it did.
No one is talking about anyone compromising his/her faith or ‘changing facts’. Just because I as someone who majored in American history in college don’t believe the story concerning George Washington’s ‘I cannot tell a lie’ fable doesn’t mean I don’t love my country, and just because I can state–based on the history of it–that the church got the ‘math’ wrong with regards to Islam isn’t a renunciation of faith on my part. Your own given example of the nonsense concerning Nostra Aetate is a perfect example of how bad politics resulted in bad pronouncements and policies that were erroneous in their essence and very damaging in their far-reaching implications, and if the church could have made such grievous political errors vis a vis NA, it certainly could have done it earlier.
This is one of the pitfalls that Catholics fall into–seeing their ‘bride of Christ’ as incapable of making mistakes, and clearly, as history (and especially RECENT history) has proven, this notion that the human element that must inevitably by its very nature make mistakes somehow does not come into play in the mechanics of how the church has done things over the centuries is something that simply cannot withstand the rigors of reason and common sense. The church is made up of people and people make mistakes given their fallen human natures.
I–as a catholic father of 10 children–invite you to read a fascinating piece by Bp. Fulton Sheen entitled ‘Mary and the Moslems’, and even though he gets it wrong with his description of the ‘destruction’ that Islam brought wherever it went, (which certainly is not the case, as all those Christian churches remained standing throughout the Middle East up to this very day, save those of course that the Jews have blown up either directly themselves or through the use of their proxy mercenaries such as ISIS) nevertheless he definitely gets it right when he talks about the reverence and love they hold for the Mother of Christ, a point which, when I read it for myself the first time in the Koran, caused me to realize how wrong the church had written/propagated the narrative concerning Islam and the potential that exists between the 2 faiths of forming alliances when/where necessary when countering our common enemy.
http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2009/fsheen_maryandislam__jun09.asp
@ APJG
You may also want to look into what is called “The Ashtiname of Muhammad”.
It is the Covenant of the Last Prophet of God with the monks of St Catherine’s Monastery.
Here is a link:
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/charter1.html
And, if you are into political history, you may want to have a look at the Constitution Of Medina.
Many regard it as the first constitution in History which clearly establishes religious freedom as a fundamental constitutional right.
Medina was at that time a multi-religious pluralistic society and the Constitution’s goal was to guarantee religious freedom to EVERYONE.
In Medina and all throughout islamic history (until the XXth century), Muslims were subject to and being judged by Quranic Law, jews by judaic/Mosaic law and Christians by Christian law.
The synagogue of Satan is trying to scare us with ‘Sharia Law’ when in fact, Islamic law applies only, I repeat – ONLY – to Muslims. No one else.
They are trying to scare us with Sharia Law while they have already replaced our ‘secular’ laws by Talmudic laws.
Haven’t we all noticed that ALL western nations already have 2 sets of laws: one for the jews, which basically exempt them from any wrong doing (anti-semitism…), and one for the rest of us.
Exactly as Judaism says.
The UK and the US have already absorbed the Noahide laws as being part of their legal system even though these are not yet being implemented.
So they want us to look at sharia law (with jewish lenses), divert our attention while they continue subverting our nations.
Just about all the nasty stuff we hear about Islam is a lie and actually applies to Judaism.
Psychological projection: they do it all the time.
Peace be upon you and yours
PS: did you know that the oldest standing Church in the world is in… Iran 😀
Sabba! I tend to oversimplify, but at the core your more or less warning about the two groups annihilating one another. No? . The worse part is the loss of life…… and the next worse thing is the destruction of the historic buildings which I think your eluding to.Total loss of history and beauty. You have me thinking of the word “crusade” was used by US President George W. Bush and thus that is what we have except add the word “endless Crusade.” Peace to you as well! Bravo