ed note–In all the dozen or so stories we read concerning the recent meeting between Putin and Netanyahu and Putin’s scoffing at Netanyahu’s warnings concerning Iran, we did not encounter ONE story detailing the fact that Putin gave Netanyahu this book, and all can rest assured that this was not by accident or happenstance, as organized Jewish interests understood immediately the significance of this and made sure to keep it out of the discussion.
As we say here often, there is no underestimating the importance of this development. As is covered here on a regular basis, what the entire world is witnessing right now, although entirely unbeknownst, is a continuation of the war that took place 2,000 years ago between Rome and Judea, with modern day Israel representing the latter and its desire to undo the events that took place with the Roman general Titus’ destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple.
Josephus’ book ‘War of the Jews’ is considered the authoritative historical source for this event, detailing how the Jews–in the throes of their insane religious zealotry, destroyed themselves by engaging in the suicidal business of going to war against the Roman empire.
And this was precisely the message Putin was trying to convey to Netanyahu by giving him a copy of this book, that the results will be the same today as they were yesterday if the Jews don’t flush the toilets in their heads, clear their thinking and start acting like sane human beings.
We can only hope (HOPE) that the decision on the part of Putin’s people to give Netanyahu this book may in some way be related to the discussions that take place on this website dealing with this very same historical phenomenon on a regular basis.
jewishpressDOTcom
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday gave visiting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a copy of Josephus Flavius’ ‘The Jewish War’ which was printed in Tuscany, Italy, in 1526, the Kremlin press service announced.
The book was published in the Tuscan dialect.
The prime minister instructed his staff to hand the book over to the National Library of Israel, according to Netanyahu’s press service.
Netanyahu wrapped up his brief working visit to Russia where he held talks with Putin on several issues, including the Iranian threat in Syria.
‘The Jewish War’ (Latin Bellum Judaicum or De Bello Judaico) was Josephus’ first work after arriving in Rome, following the repression of the Great Revold of the year 70. In 78 CE he finished the seven-volume account in Greek. It starts with the period of the Maccabees and concludes with accounts of the fall of Jerusalem, and the succeeding fall of the fortresses of Herodion, Macharont and Masada and the Roman victory celebrations in Rome, the mopping-up operations, Roman military operations elsewhere in the Empire and the uprising in Cyrene.
In the wake of the suppression of the Jewish revolt, Josephus would have witnessed the marches of Titus’s triumphant legions leading their Jewish captives, and carrying treasures from the despoiled Temple in Jerusalem. It was against this background that Josephus wrote his War, claiming to be countering anti-Judaean accounts. He disputes the claim that the Jews worshipped a defeated God, and were naturally hostile to Roman civilization. Instead, he blames the Jewish War on what he calls “unrepresentative and over-zealous fanatics” among the Jews, who led the masses away from their traditional aristocratic leaders (such as himself), with disastrous results.
Josephus also blames some of the Roman governors of Judea, presenting them as corrupt and incompetent administrators. According to Josephus, the traditional Jew was, should be, and can be a loyal and peace-loving citizen. Jews can, and historically have, accepted Rome’s hegemony because their faith declares that God himself gives empires their power.
8 thoughts on “While in Moscow, Putin Gives Netanyahu a copy of ‘The Jewish War’ by Josephus”
The thing is: Netanyahu and his fellow racist-supremacist psychopaths from Poland are about as genetically connected to the ancient Jews of Josephus’ time as Geronimo was.
ed note–an interesting factoid, but for the purposes of this discussion, irrelevant.
In Israel, there are many Jews who are true semites, and they are just as violent, irrational and dangerous.
The DNA angle to understanding the problems surrounding Judaic behavior takes people off of the path on which they need to be which resides in understanding the psychological electricity that animates their behavior, and until this aspect is understood, the world will continue hurdling towards its own destruction.
Putin gifting Bibi Josephus’ ‘The Jewish War’ was also reported on The Algemeiner https://archive.is/Pw1Uz
Mark if you ever needed proof you are the pinnacle of this ‘movement’ then this is it.
No way is this a coincidence, all the best! 😀
ed note–thank you for the kind words D, but in all honesty, there is ‘nothing to it’ as they say. Pretty simple math that even someone like me can figure out if they just plug in the right numbers and use the right theorems, the problem is, most won’t do it because it either runs counter to some personally-held dogma or else there are just too many uncomfortable results that come from it.
That’s why we call it the ugly truth.
Now, how about thaaaaat?!!!
I told you Maestro you have an incredible, a unique God given gift called spiritual insight, insight which allows you to instantly see all the nuances, the very pale shades of grey which almost look white and which can not be easily perceived, which most of us can not see..
I can not believe it is a coincidence. This simply can not be a coincidence.
For one, very very few Gentiles know Josephus.
The overwhelming majority have never ever heard the name ‘the Flavians’, never heard of Vespasian, Titus etc. So imagine Josephus!
Those in the Gentile world who may know about him (though it does not mean they have studied his books) are students of early Roman Empire History, Professors of Roman History and some Christian exegeses (because Josephus is one of the 2 ancient sources who speak about Judea at the time of Christ). But in my experience, Christian exegeses do not study Josephus from the angle we do,
Moreover, Josephus is not about Purim at all.
Bibi used the Bible to speak badly about Iran.
Putin could have used the same Bible to speak so positively about the Iran.
A more logical and obvious gift would have been a nice engraved calligraphic frame containing all the different biblical verses which speak so favorably of the Persian king Cyrus the Great who financed and re-built the temple for them and who is called Messiah in Isaiah.
The only reason for Putin to give Bibi such a Purim present means that he studied, analyzed and understands Josephus the way we do and has made the parallel between AD70 and now, parallel which none but you have made.
There is just no way this could be a coincidence.
This is yet another sign that you can NOT ever give up, ‘resign’ from your leader’s role.
We had a massive sign in Beirut when we met Palestinian marathon runner George.
Putin offering Josephus to Bibi as a purim present is an even bigger sign.
I think it is the biggest signs of them all.
I agree with Viper, you are the pinnacle of this ‘movement’.
ed note–I beg to slightly disagree…
First and foremost, it has been you Sabba who has collaborated with yours truly on the entire “Roman’ thesis to all of this, so you deserve at least half the credit.
And as far as the ‘pinnacle’, I would prefer that it be expressed in the 1st person plural–‘We’, as in all the faculty and student body making up TUT Uni, rather than in the 2nd person singular, meaning just yours truly.
Where I will agree with you however 666% is that this was no coincidence on the part of Putin in giving this book to Nutty Netty. It was meant as a reminder that not only DOES history repeat itself, indeed it is in the process of doing so at this very moment.
And by the way, for any doubters out there that Putin does indeed see his country as a continuation of the Roman model, keep in mind that Russia’s coat of arms is as follows– http://allrus.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Russian-two-headed-eagle-1.jpg
The double headed eagle represents both the western and eastern roman empires.
Highly educative article about the past. Thanks for the efforts taken by all involved to enlighten us.
Jews had been away from Palestine for nearly two thousand years!
Before that they had ruled Palestine hardly ever the whole of it, for less than five hundred years.
If that is the point then don’t they think that the Arabs could, with equal justification, demand Spain for themselves – for, after all, they held sway in Spain for nearly seven hundred years and lost it entirely only five hundred years ago?
After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine as Arabs to Spain
Long before them were many other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here – the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hitties.
Those tribes continued living here even in the days of kingdoms of Israel and Judah.
They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today.
The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinians or Syrian “Arabs” are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country.
Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co-religionists from Arabia.
But can anyone deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendents of the original inhabitants; original in the sense of having lived in Palestine country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?”
Leopold Weiss ( a Jewish scholar ) has this to say about Palestine
“How is it possible, I wondered, for people endowed with so much creative intelligence as the Jews to think of the Zionist-Arab conflict in Jewish terms alone? …
And how strange, I thought, that a nation which had suffered so many wrongs in the course of its long and sorrowful diaspora was now, in single-minded pursuit of its own goal, ready to inflict a grievous wrong on another nation – and a nation, too, that was innocent of all that past Jewish suffering.
Such a phenomenon, I knew, was not unknown to history; but it made me, none the less, very sad to see it enacted before my eyes.” http://www.wrmea.org/1995-september/issues-in-islam-muhammad-asad-visionary-islamic-scholar.html
Israeli Major General Shlomo Gazit (retired) was the head of research at the Israeli directorate of Military Intelligence. He was one of the most intelligent and considerate leaders and thinkers among the Israelis.
Over coffee on morning, Alan Hart said to him, “I have come to the conclusion that it’s all a myth. Israel’s existence has never been in danger.”
Through a sad smile, Gazit replied,
“The trouble with us Israelis is that we have become victims of our own propaganda.”
Zionism the real enemy of Jews should help Jews to come to terms with that truth and its implications
Until then the peace that the author hopes is not going to materialise.
The thing is: Netanyahu and his fellow racist-supremacist psychopaths from Poland are about as genetically connected to the ancient Jews of Josephus’ time as Geronimo was.
ed note–an interesting factoid, but for the purposes of this discussion, irrelevant.
In Israel, there are many Jews who are true semites, and they are just as violent, irrational and dangerous.
The DNA angle to understanding the problems surrounding Judaic behavior takes people off of the path on which they need to be which resides in understanding the psychological electricity that animates their behavior, and until this aspect is understood, the world will continue hurdling towards its own destruction.
Putin gifting Bibi Josephus’ ‘The Jewish War’ was also reported on The Algemeiner https://archive.is/Pw1Uz
Mark if you ever needed proof you are the pinnacle of this ‘movement’ then this is it.
No way is this a coincidence, all the best! 😀
ed note–thank you for the kind words D, but in all honesty, there is ‘nothing to it’ as they say. Pretty simple math that even someone like me can figure out if they just plug in the right numbers and use the right theorems, the problem is, most won’t do it because it either runs counter to some personally-held dogma or else there are just too many uncomfortable results that come from it.
That’s why we call it the ugly truth.
Now, how about thaaaaat?!!!
I told you Maestro you have an incredible, a unique God given gift called spiritual insight, insight which allows you to instantly see all the nuances, the very pale shades of grey which almost look white and which can not be easily perceived, which most of us can not see..
I can not believe it is a coincidence. This simply can not be a coincidence.
For one, very very few Gentiles know Josephus.
The overwhelming majority have never ever heard the name ‘the Flavians’, never heard of Vespasian, Titus etc. So imagine Josephus!
Those in the Gentile world who may know about him (though it does not mean they have studied his books) are students of early Roman Empire History, Professors of Roman History and some Christian exegeses (because Josephus is one of the 2 ancient sources who speak about Judea at the time of Christ). But in my experience, Christian exegeses do not study Josephus from the angle we do,
Moreover, Josephus is not about Purim at all.
Bibi used the Bible to speak badly about Iran.
Putin could have used the same Bible to speak so positively about the Iran.
A more logical and obvious gift would have been a nice engraved calligraphic frame containing all the different biblical verses which speak so favorably of the Persian king Cyrus the Great who financed and re-built the temple for them and who is called Messiah in Isaiah.
The only reason for Putin to give Bibi such a Purim present means that he studied, analyzed and understands Josephus the way we do and has made the parallel between AD70 and now, parallel which none but you have made.
There is just no way this could be a coincidence.
This is yet another sign that you can NOT ever give up, ‘resign’ from your leader’s role.
We had a massive sign in Beirut when we met Palestinian marathon runner George.
Putin offering Josephus to Bibi as a purim present is an even bigger sign.
I think it is the biggest signs of them all.
I agree with Viper, you are the pinnacle of this ‘movement’.
ed note–I beg to slightly disagree…
First and foremost, it has been you Sabba who has collaborated with yours truly on the entire “Roman’ thesis to all of this, so you deserve at least half the credit.
And as far as the ‘pinnacle’, I would prefer that it be expressed in the 1st person plural–‘We’, as in all the faculty and student body making up TUT Uni, rather than in the 2nd person singular, meaning just yours truly.
Where I will agree with you however 666% is that this was no coincidence on the part of Putin in giving this book to Nutty Netty. It was meant as a reminder that not only DOES history repeat itself, indeed it is in the process of doing so at this very moment.
And by the way, for any doubters out there that Putin does indeed see his country as a continuation of the Roman model, keep in mind that Russia’s coat of arms is as follows–
http://allrus.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Russian-two-headed-eagle-1.jpg
The double headed eagle represents both the western and eastern roman empires.
Highly educative article about the past. Thanks for the efforts taken by all involved to enlighten us.
Jews had been away from Palestine for nearly two thousand years!
Before that they had ruled Palestine hardly ever the whole of it, for less than five hundred years.
If that is the point then don’t they think that the Arabs could, with equal justification, demand Spain for themselves – for, after all, they held sway in Spain for nearly seven hundred years and lost it entirely only five hundred years ago?
After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine as Arabs to Spain
Long before them were many other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here – the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hitties.
Those tribes continued living here even in the days of kingdoms of Israel and Judah.
They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today.
The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinians or Syrian “Arabs” are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country.
Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co-religionists from Arabia.
But can anyone deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendents of the original inhabitants; original in the sense of having lived in Palestine country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?”
Leopold Weiss ( a Jewish scholar ) has this to say about Palestine
“How is it possible, I wondered, for people endowed with so much creative intelligence as the Jews to think of the Zionist-Arab conflict in Jewish terms alone? …
And how strange, I thought, that a nation which had suffered so many wrongs in the course of its long and sorrowful diaspora was now, in single-minded pursuit of its own goal, ready to inflict a grievous wrong on another nation – and a nation, too, that was innocent of all that past Jewish suffering.
Such a phenomenon, I knew, was not unknown to history; but it made me, none the less, very sad to see it enacted before my eyes.”
http://www.wrmea.org/1995-september/issues-in-islam-muhammad-asad-visionary-islamic-scholar.html
Israeli Major General Shlomo Gazit (retired) was the head of research at the Israeli directorate of Military Intelligence. He was one of the most intelligent and considerate leaders and thinkers among the Israelis.
Over coffee on morning, Alan Hart said to him, “I have come to the conclusion that it’s all a myth. Israel’s existence has never been in danger.”
Through a sad smile, Gazit replied,
“The trouble with us Israelis is that we have become victims of our own propaganda.”
Zionism the real enemy of Jews should help Jews to come to terms with that truth and its implications
Until then the peace that the author hopes is not going to materialise.