Ed-note (Sabba) – I have no sympathy whatsoever for John Friend. I discovered him when he was interviewed a few years ago by Mark Glenn right here on TUT. I thought back then he was a decent guy who loves his country and wants to see it free from its judaic bondage. He had (has?) a great weekly report which he called ‘News from Jews’.
And then something happened and he started biting the hand that fed him: he joined the White Nationalist crowds, he embarked on a crusade against Mark Glenn and TUT, against all non-white people, whatever that means, completely loosing focus on what really matters, completely misunderstanding what National Socialism is, what National Socialist Germany was really about, loosing focus on who the enemy is etc.
So, I have no sympathy for the guy but he made it on the Times of Israel, hence me posting this article.
Yeah !. I saw John Friend wearing a blue shirt once… Shit!, how pathetic are you guys?. John does his best at exposing Jewry and has paid dearly for it. Stop with the childish bitchiness otherwise we’re all screwed….
I must say that I’m not entirely familiar with Mr. Friend. I haven’t heard anything from him so far that I disagree with. But, I must ask if you’d have sympathy for any of your readers who would damn sure lose their job if they were even seen with this web page open on their computer at work? Is that where we are now?
This is my opinion and does not reflect the opinion of the owner of this blog – Mark Glenn – nor any other co-editor.
I agree with you Mick: it was really pathetic of him to start bashing, insulting, using the most vile words against Mark Glenn and Jonathan Azaziah and TUT in general.
His White Supremacist diatribes on Muslims, Latin Americans, Southern Europeans, African Americans etc. are something I do not accept, and I believe, no Truther should accept.
White Supremacism and judaism are one and the same, 2 sides of the shekel. We can’t claim to fight judaism because of its supremacist ideology and at the same time accept it for ourselves.
Spiral Out: I am sorry you took it this way. I do not wish anything bad happening to you for reading TUT or for any other reason. God bless you and yours.
As for the rest: I will let Mark Glenn respond, if he wishes to.
As someone with the responsibilities associated with taking care of a large family, I can certainly sympathize, empathize, and everything in between with anyone in this ‘movement’ losing their ability to feed themselves as a result of political pressures being raised against them because of their opinions.
At the same time however, John Friend and others like him are a case study as to what all of us involved in this crazy business need to avoid for reasons related not only to furthering the cause, but as well to the maintenance of our own effectiveness. In the 20+ years that I have known/worked alongside those who claim membership in the ‘white nationalist’ cult, there has never been one of them who did not turn on me, and over the slightest of reasons. In many respects they are mirrored images of the Jews, of Jewish thought processes and how they operate. They believe in their superiority over ‘the other’–be they black, asian, hispanic, etc, whom they refer to as ‘mud people’, niggers, spics, muzzies, chinks, etc. They believe there is a global conspiracy against them, to ‘genocide’ them and ‘keep them down’. Like Jews, they stick together, insist upon being ‘separate’ and are constantly feeding into each other’s racial narcissism and paranoia, and-very much like the Jews–whenever someone comes around offering a critical, analytical position on something they have said or done, that person is immediately tarred with the charge of being ‘anti-white’ and of wanting to bring about a ‘white holocaust’. Trying to discuss things rationally with them, i.e. the immigration situation– is every bit as much an impossible task as trying to reason with Jews on the issues of Zionism, Israel, Palestine, etc, and it is a situation that worsens by the day as things are exacerbated on the world stage and the more interconnected these individuals become through the internet, etc.
At the end of the day, the Jews love the entire WN cult phenomenon, as these groups/individuals can always be maneuvered into doing/saying something that works to the Jews’ benefit. Due to the emotion-based (rather than reason-based) impetus for all their political activity, they can always be counted on to fumble the ball as it is in play and afford the enemy the opportunity of retrieving it, or worse–as is often the case–running the ball into the wrong end zone and therefore scoring a point for the other side. They are every bit as much a problem for those trying to peel the vampires claws off of our collective Gentile neck as the ‘anti-Zionist’ gatekeepers on the left.
The point is, you’re ‘throwing out the baby with the bath water’. I don’t agree with everything he says either but I keep, first and foremost in mind, that he is exposing Jewry for what it is and, as I said before, he has paid dearly for it. If we, who are trying to show the reality of Jewish hegemony are consumed by petty differences, it is only Jewry that will succeed. If you have a grudge against what he says about Glenn or Azaziah, by all means take him to task on it, but don’t accommodate the Jews by trying to demolish him. ‘A house divided against itself cannot stand’…..
Sabba-
Thanks for the thoughtful reply and may God bless you as well. I haven’t heard Friend bash Mark or Jonathan. If he did, shame on him, as these are two of the most solid individuals I know of. But, as stated, no one should lose their means of making a living because of an opinion. That is a disgusting jewish method of sneering retribution that no moral person should ever engage in.
No, not a matter of ‘throwing out the baby with the bathwater’ at all. We recognize/understand that there are/always will be differences of opinion and differences of approach when dealing with the problems we are all facing. However, at the end of the day, a little accounting has to be done and a determination made as to whether someone (or a group of someones) are an asset or a liability to what we are all trying to achieve.
We agree-a house divided cannot stand, which is why we eschew people like Friend, who are NOT about unity but rather about division. Show me an army that has a no-questions-asked, open-door policy that puts all applicants on the battlefield without any minimum standards, fielding individuals who are fat, lazy, stupid, and undisciplined, and I’ll show you an army that has never/will never win a war. Dittoes with a coach of whatever sport–this is a team that has never/will never win a game.
There has to be a process of pass/fail. After all, isn’t this one of the BIG gripes heard by WNs on a regular basis, that ‘quotas’ and ‘equal opportunity’ have put people in positions of employment and social standing who were undeserved for such?
Can’t win this unless we are serious about winning it, and that means culling the herd and removing those who are more a liability than an asset.
Implicitly condoning the jewish method of financial and social ostricization should not be part of culling the herd. The hasbara monitors must be loving this.
My opinion about the WN crowd is that they do not fight/expose judaism because of what intrinsically wrong with it, they do it because they are jealous of the jews.
They are jealous of them because they feel the joos are in the position where they, the WN, should be. They feel the joos have usurped them of their ‘superior status’ and they want that ‘superior’ status for them and them only.
Should the WN have it their way, the world would be no different than it is now and they would deal with Muslims, African Americans and all Black people, Latin people the exact same way the jews are dealing with the Palestinians now and how they hope to deal with the rest of us soon.
I would like to add here that when John Friend and his friends embarked on a their crusade against Mark Glenn and the people at TUT, no one has ever responded to his provocations. Precisely because they do not waste time fighting ‘each other’ as goyim and they never loose sight of the main, the only objective, the only target: international jewry.
there has been absolutely NO condoning–implicit, explicit or otherwise, of the Judaic method of financial and social ostricization as a means of ‘culling the herd’. In fact, as the below quote will CLEARLY indicate, it is something I/we are personally against–
‘As someone with the responsibilities associated with taking care of a large family, I can certainly sympathize, empathize, and everything in between with anyone in this ‘movement’ losing their ability to feed themselves as a result of political pressures being raised against them because of their opinions.’
This is another big problem we have in this movement–people don’t read carefully, listen carefully, and consider carefully. They react in an emotional way to things which they imagine are there but which in fact are not, and in the process wind up completely off the reservation, and if there is anything in this discussion that is bringing pleasure to the hasbara monitors of this site, it is the complete misreading/ misunderstanding of what was/is being said.
With all due respect, Mark, this whole thing opened with someone having no sympathy for what happened to Mr. Friend. That is all I was pointing out. Perhaps more care should be taken in choosing our words when it comes to pointing out what karma may have brought upon someone. Peace, brother. Let’s all enjoy a beautiful Sunday!
ed note–agreed–a beautiful Sunday for everyone!
Show me an army where every recruit agrees with everything the Hierarchy says, yet they will all be unified in achieving the group target. Having been a member of a military unit I can assure you that although there will be many different opinions, it is the desired goal that takes on the crucial imperative. We can argue latter just who was right or wrong but what’s important now is Identifying the enemy and destroying him. If I’m wrong, so be it, but I really believe that at this time it is not productive to nit pick amongst ourselves…..
ed note–but what if you have someone on the team who becomes a liability? Someone who shoots at everything that moves, including his own people? Someone who lobs grenades uphill that then roll downhill towards your own team? Forget the fact he may be wearing the same uniform, he is a battlefield liability whose actions only aid the enemy. If you want to have someone like this on your team, just because he happens to be a ‘nice guy’ who looks good in his uniform, then all I can say is please make sure your affairs are in order and family will be taken care of, because he is going to get you killed.
Absolutely correct Sabba–in the several decades I have known/worked with them, I have detected this as well, that it is an issue of jealousy/envy on their part, and related to their PERSONAL situation (s) viz a viz education, employment, influence, and–drum role please–sex.
The obvious proof that they are not really interested in fixing the problem but rather in having membership in some dysfunctional ‘club’ where they are free to gripe and vent is evident–they do not play to win. They operate stupidly and do everything they can to frustrate a unified front against organized Jewish power with their overt racism, calls to violence, insularity, etc. There are over ONE BILLION muslims worldwide who should be viewed as primary candidates for the very alliance that white Europeans MUST have if our common enemy is to be defeated, but do these WNs do anything to create such an alliance?
Yahweh forbid. They refer to them on their internet radio programs and forums as ‘muzzies’, ‘sand niggers’, ‘hajjis’ and every other racist epithet they are able to conjure up, believing in the fantasy that ‘white rage’ is going to save the white race and that no alliance with anyone is necessary. Dittoes with hispanics who have a vested dislike of organized Jewish power, evidenced in part by the fact that South America has completely fallen into the Russian/Iranian sphere of influence, but what do these ‘intellectually superior’ WNs do in creating alliances with these people?
We won’t even ‘go there’ as the saying operates.
In the meantime, organized Jewish groups cozy up to the Islamic and Hispanic communities, pat them on the head and say ‘you poor people…look at what white, western european Christians have done to you…They have invaded your countries, killed your people, starved, bombed and violated you…They have made you refugees and look at how they refer to you on their various websites…We understand…after all, they holocausted us just a few decades ago…’
And thus, the circle begins a new…
“They refer to them on their internet radio programs and forums as ‘muzzies’, ‘sand niggers’, ‘hajjis’ and every other racist epithet they are able to conjure up”
Although you repeatedly refer to this, Mark, that crowd is not the most problematic because it is so easy to demolish their positions and because they don’t appeal to people who have more than two neurons to rub together to get a spark. More important positions to focus on — and perhaps requiring more careful analysis — are those espoused by evolutionary psychologists (Kevin McDonald) and by high-brow chatters like those on Taki’s Magazine.
Additionally, while “Judaism against the World” is a black and white issue, no ifs or buts, the world itself is not black and white. It doesn’t seem necessary, as far as John Friend is concerned, to accept only a stark choice: either embrace him unreservedly because he does a good job of exposing Jewry’s nefarious doings or reviling him with gusto because he is a white nationalist (plus a specific bone to pick with him). If his case of being fired to shut him up for his “anti-semitism” is too complex an example to be discussed, TUT may easily elect to not bring it up at all.
ed note–I think the missing ingredient here in better understanding where I am coming from on this is this thing known as ‘perspective’.
For better or for worse, in terms of exposure and interaction with others coming from backgrounds that are wide, diverse, and oftentimes complicated, I operate on a level very different from many of the readers/commentors here. How many have pages on the ADL website linking you to John Friend types, pages that are then used to frustrate your attempts at building bridges with other Gentiles of wide, diverse, and oftentimes complicated backgrounds? How many of you can type your name into search engines that result in millions of entries, many of them deliberately created to destroy your ability to create a better understanding of the nature of the problem we are all facing?
I would venture to say, very few of you. Many of the people here use pseudonyms and ‘pen names’ in hiding their true identities, people who have lives outside of this and who flirt with this political business on a very part-time basis.
Yours truly however does not. I put myself out there with my real name, real face, real voice, etc, for the purpose of fighting something which I know within every molecule of my being will destroy us all if not stopped, and the amount of time and energy I have had to spend in distancing myself from the John Friend types who make an already dangerous, discouraging, and unpleasant job even more so by the idiotic noise they make is incalculable. The only reason that those of you out there take a more ‘relaxed’ view of this is quite simply because you do not yet realize the damage that these people do, and the reason you don’t is because–as I indicated earlier, you are not as much on the field playing the game with them as some of us are. When you face lost game after lost game after lost game–not because of any deficiency on your part, but rather because of something idiotic that they did in causing victory to be handed to the other side, you will better understand the position from which I/we operate. The only ‘redeeming’ thing about all of this is that indeed that moment of truth is approaching when everyone involved will better understand, because the disaster is going to wind up at everyone’s front door, at which point, the idiocy of these people will be easier to see and diagnose for what it is.
No Rosso, I do not think it is. I think it is meant to the whole discussion rather than your comment specifically. Don’t go. I personally very much appreciate your comments/contribution and your most valuable Russian perspective.
No, Rosso, don’t threaten, please, the thought of you leaving gives me vertigo.
Look, Sabba thinks your perspective is “Russian,” isn’t that gratifying enough?
Oh… He is not?!? Rosso, if you are not Russian (or Slavic), then mea culpa maxima! I honestly thought you were… And Ariadnatheo is right: take it as a compliment!
Rosso-
As Sabba said, it was directed at the whole thread that is getting pretty catty at this point. Not at you.
” note–but what if you have someone on the team who becomes a liability? Someone who shoots at everything that moves, including his own people? Someone who lobs grenades uphill that then roll downhill towards your own team?”
In the unit I served we would call that guy a ‘Yank’ and back squad him until he matured as an effective soldier. What we would not do is slag him off, then cast him off !. Why not engage with J Friend and profit from his research, he does, after all have some very good points to make. Your views are not perfect, nor are his, but lets not be precious and adopt the Jewish mind set that only our way is the right way, Time to move on methinks !…..
ed note–lol. ‘Engage’ with JF.
Ok, you are obviously a new arrival here to TUT platoon, so I’ll give you a crash course.
As Sabba indicated, this was the very FIRST place where ‘the friendly’ John Friend (as our beloved Mike Piper, RIP used to refer to him) got his ‘feet wet’. For years we promoted him, had him on the radio program, ran his articles, etc,etc,etc.
Then, John went down the path to the dark side, started trafficking with all sorts of very problematic elements who were not just ‘racialist’ in their outlook, but acolytes of the most RANCID racism one can imagine. Shortly after this ‘change of life’, he then began a campaign of attacking the various people here who had supported and promoted him, finally ‘jining up’ with the other side totally in what we believe was an ADL/JITF-type operation in attempting to ‘take own’ one of the most inclusive and effective outlets in giving a clear, understandable picture of just what encompasses ‘the Jewish problem’. He augmented all of this with his ‘Sandy Hook never happened’ BS and even went so far as to intimate that the aforementioned Michael Collins Piper–RIP–‘chickened out’ of a debate with him over the issue of Sandy Hook by ‘faking’ the same heart attack for which he had to undergo a quintuple bypass surgery shortly thereafter.
So please, understand that when we speak of the ‘friendly’ John Friend, it is not without a considerable amount of VERY personal, first-hand experience.
I know most of what I’m going to write has already been addressed, but I just wanted to share my displeasure of seeing this kind of post at TUT.
It’s one thing to disagree with a man on his positions, but it’s something quite different to take him to task for that at a time like this. Kicking a man while he is down like this is in very poor form.
If Mr. Friend should be taken to task at all by TUT, it should have been for his teaming up with rat Fetzer in their shameful attacks against the late Michael Collins Piper (RIP).
But no, you are going after him for something else entirely, and what is worse, reading the post without any editorial context seems to suggest that the author agrees with the Jews in that a man should be fired for political opinions that he did not espouse while on company time. That, is an indefensible position and one that I cannot get behind in any way, shape or form.
ed note–I agree completely, and to be quite honest, if I could wave a magic wand and have John Friend return to his job, I would do it, because it is the fair thing to do, irrespective of whatever personal feelings I might have for him.
No, Sabba was not agreeing with what was done to him. As she indicated, she posted it only because it made its way onto the Times of Israel website. The way I read her intentions, her posting it was done to underscore why individuals such as this pose an across-the-board problem for all of us in terms of trying to create a rational, productive discussion of the nature of Judaism, Zionism and Jewish power.
I agree with you as well that the sniveling, snickering manner in which he treated Mike’s heart attack, working alongside the fat slob Fetzer was something that was absolutely unforgivable, but something which–in trying to keep the discussion reasonable and fair here–I did not mention earlier.
He’s also following the Pete Papaherakles’ anti-islam bandwagon at AFP.
I guess that the big media are talking about JF being fired because they’re not afraid to give him a lot of publicity. Piper said JF was about to make a move in politics, perhaps even to start a run for presidency. Right now, JF is pushing the exact same claim as the JMSM, that the jews are “afraid of Trump”. The fact is they’re not afraid of him at all. Even if he’s not electable, he’s there in the public arena to raise the level of rightist WN anti-immigration AFP gonzo discourse among the internet sheeple. Trump is not openly a Zionist, but he’s giving WN people reasons to love Zionist jews, in somewhat he same way Kevin MacDonald’s is presenting naziism as a mirror-image of jewish “ethno-strategy”.
Cooler heads and reason that see the big picture, ie the scourge known as World Jewry and Zionism. Thank you MG and Sabba. You are the reason I always come back to this site to get the objective truth, “ugly” as it is. :o)
Fabulous discussion above. Thank you for reminding us of all that we went through with John over the years, I tend to forget these things in my desire to just focus on what comes next. John lost me years ago when, during a debate with one of his friends in the WN front, I was told to be ready to shoot my own daughters when the coming race wars came around. Like John’s lovely child, mine, too are Eurasian.
Dennis Fetcho speaks long and candidly about the John Friend affair. His relationship with John is quite different and his take on the situation interesting to say the least.
http://grizzom.blogspot.ca/2015/09/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20150912.html
What is being done to Friend has been done to Trevor LaBonte and many other Americans who have spoken out truths anathema to our common enemy. Everything is taken away … jobs, opportunity, etc. Americans, when told of our loss of freedom of speech in Canada, usually respond with, “Oh, we still have freedom of speech.” In Canada you get arrested; in the US simply cut off.
Consider the differences between Arthur Topham and John Friend. Both bloggers are enemies of the Jew and his crimes. Arthur faces actual jail time on ludicrous interpretations of satire and political truths. Because of his much less tolerant writings, John was brought to the attention of his employers and ACCEPTED terms and resigned. Needless to say, I will support my fellow Canadian Arthur Topham who also has a much more positive view of humanity.