‘The Americans have findings that show our pilots were aware the ship was American,’ a newly published document by the State Archives says
ed note–We have been waiting a few days since the initial release of this story to see what its underlying agenda was before commenting.
Everyone in ‘duh muuvmnt’ is absolutely giddy over this story’s release, and doubtless, so are a good number of LIBERTY survivors, but the bad news is, there is nothing to be giddy about. In fact, the release of this story and all the subsequent noise it is sure to generate is an absolute disaster, and now we’ll explain why.
There have been several books written about the LIBERTY, including ‘What I Saw That Day’ detailing USS LIBERTY survivor and war hero Phil Tourney’s account of not only the attack, but everything that followed in its wake over the course of 40 years. It never got any mention on any Israeli news outlets, along with Jim Ennis’ ‘Assault on the LIBERTY’ and the book ‘Attack on the LIBERTY’ written by James Scott, son of a USS LIBERTY crewman, to say nothing of Operation Cyanide by former BBC correspondent Peter Hounam which IOHO is the best book one can read on the issue.
And yet now, alluvasudden–
BAM!!!
A major Israeli news outlet decides to do a front page, multi-episode edition detailing how Israel knew it was an American ship ahead of time and attacked it anyway.
A ‘coming to Jesus’ moment for the Jewish State?
Fear of God?
‘Twinge of conscience?’
Perish the thought, dear Gentile readers…
No, the reason they are running with this out front and center is apparent right on its face–
The author’s thesis is that then-President Lyndon Baines Johnson, one of the most HATED presidents in US history, FORCED dear, little, innocent, pure-as-the-wind-driven-snow Israel to attack the ship, against her will, forcing her with undetermined threats of what would come her way if she didn’t.
(As a personal slap on the back, we here at this humble little informational endeavor predicted years ago that this would one day eventually come, where Israel did an about-face from her usual biz of maintaining with a straight face that it was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ to one of ‘yeah, we did it, but only because the US FORCED us to do it’…)
So, we have the basic flavor of this latest deception, which is that the blame for it has now been placed squarely on the shoulders of Uncle Sam. The real question that needs to be asked and answered is–‘Why now?’
No, it has nothing to do with the 50th anniversary of the attack. They didn’t see fit to do it for the 10th, 20th, 30th, or 40th anniversaries…
The answer to the question can be–IOHO–summed up with the following 10 words–
Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America…
It is somewhere between possible and probable that Trump was going to use the LIBERTY issue as a pressure point in squeezing cooperation from Netanyahu vis a vis the creation of a Palestinian state.
Doubtless as well that the Jews–natural born spies that they are–got wind of what was coming and thus beat Trump to the punch.
Besides absolving Israel of all blame, now Judea, Inc will be able to use the argument that just as the US ‘made’ Israel do nasty, dangerous, immoral things 50 years ago by FORCING her to attack the men of the LIBERTY–boo-hoo-hoo, ain’t it awful and anti-Semitic–that likewise today the US is doing the same thing with dear, little, innocent, pure-as-the-wind-driven-snow Israel vis a vis a settlement to the Palestinian issue.
Watch and wait for it, because it is coming.
The truly nauseating thing about this whole issue is that the men of the LIBERTY who cooperated in writing this book have given their imprimatur on something which in the end is going to result in their murderers getting off scott-free.
Not coincidentally, the author of this book also penned a work whereby the assassination of JFK–proven slam-dunk to have been an Israeli operation from top to bottom by the irreplaceable Michael Collins Piper in his book Final Judgment–was actually the handiwork of–
drum roll please…
–The same Lyndon Baines Johnson who is now being blamed for the attack on the LIBERTY.
Haaretz
Amid the jubilee celebrations for the Six-Day War, the tragic story of the American spy ship USS LIBERTY – which was bombed by an Israeli fighter jet and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967 in the eastern Mediterranean – was somewhat overlooked. Thirty-four American sailors were killed in the Israeli attack and many others were wounded.
Israel apologized and paid compensation to the victims’ families. Israeli and American commissions of inquiry found that the attack was a mistake. But naturally, as often happens in such events, to this day there are some who believe Israel attacked the ship with malicious intent.
A conspiracy? Healthy suspicion? Call it what you will. A new book published in May in the United States (its authors include several survivors of the attack) promises that ‘the truth is being told as never before and the real story revealed.’ The 302 pages of ‘Remember the LIBERTY!: Almost Sunk by Treason on the High Seas’ include quite a number of documents, testimonies, arguments and information that were gathered in the subsequent 50 years.
The authors’ bottom line is that then-U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the attack, in an attempt to blame then-Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser – an excuse that would then enable the United States to join the Six-Day War.
The book includes, among other things, a CIA document from November 1967 that is still partially censored. In the document, which is also on the official CIA website, an anonymous source is quoted as saying: ‘They said that [then-Israeli Defense Minister Moshe] Dayan personally ordered the attack on the ship, and that one of his generals adamantly opposed the action and said, ‘This is pure murder.’ There is no dispute about the authenticity of the document, but clearly not every sentence written in an intelligence document is the unvarnished truth.
On the other hand, the new book quotes a story reported by former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter, who recounted a conversation between an Israeli pilot and the Israel Air Force war room, which was allegedly picked up by an NSA aircraft and inadvertently cabled to CIA offices around the world:
Israeli pilot to IDF war room: This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?
IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Yes, follow orders.
Israeli pilot to IDF war room: But sir, it’s an American ship – I can see the flag!
IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Never mind; hit it.
Both the CIA document and the quote have already been published in the past. The book revives them as part of its attempt to prove its thesis.
Historian (and current Kulanu lawmaker) Dr. Michael Oren, who researched the affair in depth, rejects out of hand attempts to claim Israel attacked the USS LIBERTY deliberately.
Haaretz asked Oren last week if he has any doubts about his assertion that Israel didn’t deliberately attack the spy ship.
‘There is no doubt,’ he says. ”Not even the smallest percentage. I’ve taken part in wars. I know what ‘friendly fire’ is.
‘There’s a lot of chaos. It was a classic screw up.’
A classic screw up, especially in wartime, has more than one reason. It’s a sequence, a chain of screw ups.’
Oren adds: ‘I’m an historian. I have to stick with the facts. I can’t get into conspiracies and theories. A historian must proceed on the basis of the data before him. Today, almost all the papers have been publicized, including the texts of the recordings of the U.S. spy plane and spy submarine.
‘Attempts to explain why Israel was interested in attacking the LIBERTY have failed thus far,’ he continues. ‘They’re trying to answer the question ‘Why?’ and they’re having difficulty. It began with the claim that the LIBERTY discovered the Israel Defense Forces’ intentions or preparations to occupy the Golan Heights. And then they said it had homed in on some preparations in Dimona [the site of Israel’s nuclear reactor]. And finally, that it had listened in on the slaughter of Egyptian prisoners of war – I don’t know how slaughter sounds on the communications network. All kinds of bizarre theories.
‘If we start with the assumption that the attack was deliberate and planned in advance, the question is why. And nobody answers this question. The answer is that it wasn’t planned.
‘What continues to fuel these conspiracy theories?’ Oren asks. ‘The subject is revived every few years. It is part of a ‘theory’ that Israel, together with Russia and China, spies on the United States. As Israel’s ambassador to the United States I saw this undercurrent, which is also anti-Semitic.’
No smoking gun
In response to a recent request by historian Adam Raz (‘The Battle Over the Bomb,’ 2015, Hebrew), the Israel State Archives posted hundreds of documents on its website related to the USS LIBERTY affair.
Raz perused the material and pulled out several fascinating documents that are likely to add more questions to those already in existence – or, if you will, provide some convincing material for conspiracy theorists.
Raz, who wrote a fascinating article about Israel’s nuclear secrets in last week’s Hebrew Haaretz supplement, doesn’t like the C-word: ‘conspiracy.’ He stresses that, as a historian, he finds the word unacceptable. ‘Was the so-called ‘rotten business’ [a failed Israeli sabotage operation in Egypt in 1954] also a conspiracy? So what’s a conspiracy?’ he wonders.
He believes the documents arouse enough questions to ensure historians won’t be filing the affair away in the archives. He’s fully aware of the fact that the ‘smoking gun’ won’t be found in the papers in the State Archives, because if Israel really had intended to hit the ship, that would have been known only to a handful of people. But he refuses to accept the assertion that the claims Israel hit the ship deliberately are a conspiracy.
One of the documents Raz found among the hundreds of papers published by the State Archives is the Israeli Foreign Ministry correspondence that was sent from New York to Jerusalem.
‘Menashe informed us we had better be very careful. He doesn’t have complete information but he knows that Issaschar is very angry about our letter. The reason is apparently that the Americans have findings that show our pilots were in fact aware the ship was American,’ according to the document.
And later: ‘Menashe believes there is a recording on the ship of the conversations between the ship and our pilots, in which the ship’s crew said the ship is American. Menashe says that, in his opinion, our only chance of getting out of the crisis is to punish someone for negligence.’
In another document, which is also now posted online by the State Archives, the Israeli Embassy in Washington writes to the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem under the heading ‘Urgent.’
‘We must change the abovementioned letter, because we certainly won’t be able to say there is no basis for the accusation that the identity of the ship was determined by Israeli planes prior to the attack,’ it declares.
In other documents, which are fascinating in themselves, there is documentation of Israeli preparations for the U.S. investigation and the demands for compensation that were to follow.
‘The issue has turned into a malignant wound, which involves serious dangers for all of our relationships on all levels here, whose friendship was ours until now and which are crucial to our status in the United States. In other words, the president, the Pentagon, public opinion and the intelligence community. Do you realize that the president is also the supreme commander of the U.S. armed forces?’ wonders the Israeli Embassy in Washington, in a telegram to the Foreign Ministry.
‘In the grave situation that has been created, the only way to soften the result is for us to be able to announce to the U.S. government already today that we intend to prosecute people for this disaster. We have to publicize that in Israel already tonight,’ according to a Foreign Ministry letter. ‘This activity is the only way to create the impression, both to the U.S. government and the public here, that the attack on the ship was not the result of malicious intent by the Israeli government – I repeat, the Israeli government – or authorized groups in the IDF. For obvious reasons, it is crucial that our announcement about prosecuting those who are to blame be publicized before – I repeat, before – the publication of the American report here.’
The papers also contain several ‘amusing’ anecdotes, such as the description of a U.S. Independence Day party that was held at the U.S. Embassy in Israel after the disaster.
‘I was presented to the commander of the USS LIBERTY, which is here for repairs. He spoke freely about what happened and expressed his full confidence that it was a tragic mistake,’ according to one of the Foreign Ministry documents. ‘When asked in my presence, how long the ship’s trip to the United States would take, he replied with a smile, ‘About two weeks – unless we encounter Israeli planes again.’’
Much ink has been spilled in the past 50 years about the LIBERTY. In 2015, Amir Oren wrote a fascinating Haaretz Hebrew article that tried to eliminate all the conspiracy theories. ‘Senior American officials bequeathed a large number of incriminating quotes, but the plain and consensual truth is that a series of mistakes and screw ups caused the IDF to land a lethal blow against a vessel belonging to Israel’s most important ally,’ he wrote.
Tom Segev, in an equally interesting 2012 article, also came out against the various theories. ‘None of the four people who could have ordered an attack on an American ship – Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, Mossad chief Meir Amit, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan and Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin – was daring and crazy to that extent,’ he wrote.
However, he concludes with a slight note of doubt: ‘Over the years, various pieces of evidence have emerged that seem to support Israel’s claim that the ship was fired on by mistake. However, a number of questions still hover over the affair, and these nourish the conspiracy theories.’
Let me guess, the next thing to come out will be that “the Mossad was forced by the CIA and George ‘Dubyah’ Bush to rig the twin towers with explosives” to set up 911?
you never know……………
No Tony – L.B.J forced us to steal nuclear material to build a Nuke and launch wars of aggression on our Arab neighbors so stealing their land.
Oi that L.B.Johnson!!!
Funny how Jonathan Azaziah is now being persecuted after A. Topham but Brandon Martinez (If thats his real name) seems to get away with it but he has changed many times over the years he’s taking shekels now, Muslims, Jews and Putin working hand in hand to destroy Europe and the white race.
Anybody remember when he came “begging” here trying to infiltrate TUT, remember his begging letter?
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/open-letter-from-zion-crime-factory-to-tut/
Kosher Brandon’s right up there with Eric “Neanderthal man” Hufschmid – a “disinformation damage limitation peddler” for the tribe.
This is huge. Great editorial comments. Yes TF Bush did the Towers alone. Martha Stewart did all the stock Market theft. LBJ killed JFK and covered up the Liberty alone.You are allowed to be a little mad and George Soros but not really. The liberals will comfort themselves by saying Israel is America;s avatar in the ME
Nex step: jews will sue Amurrkah because their potus, (((lbj))) conned them into doing it.
Judge hellerstein will be fair, maybe $2.3 trillion that rabbi zakheim is saving for the occasion.
Spielberg got the script (Netanyahu says, it is good), Pitt got the role, the 19 flying wahhabis pretending to be unglorious basterds attacking because they hate our uss liberty and freedoms.
hounam was ok until he had lbj as plot master
bs fit only for jew
as lobro indicates
amurrkah will now be sued for making jew suffer
It’s FIFTY YEARS after the fact. All of the major players (not the crew of the USS Liberty of course) are DEAD. But the crew of the Liberty is of no consequence to Jews.
It’s “safe” to discuss now and pretend that the assault on the Liberty might not have been a mistake, bu, for Jews, it’s never safe to tell the truth. Jews and truth are strangers to one another.
The Jews continue and WILL ALWAYS continue to blame someone (anyone) else for their criminal & immoral activities. Would you expect anything else from Satan’s minions?
@Derek Why are you bashing Brandon? The letter you linked to seemed very nice to me.
Kosher Brandon? You mean he has not done his part to expose Jewish supremacism?
I don’t agree with Brendon on Putin, but he has given me ammo for activism that I’ve shot hundreds of times, sent to the EU parliament, the Swedish parliament.
This article by him:
http://archive.is/ufbj2
I know he has written some ugly stuff about TUT, calling them “retards” which I don’t agree with, but let them respond to him, and don’t get involved.None of your business.
Read my post
https://direktdemokratihalmstad.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/judaism-has-declared-war-on-humanity-proof/
ed note–Martinez is indeed a problem in that one minute he is one thing and then the next minute he is the opposite, which by definition makes him unstable and unanchored.
Remember that he was in thick with the various ‘personalities’ making up the WN troika, including the convicted felon Mike Delaney and a few others who then robbed him of his website and the funds that were coming into it. It was this that caused him to divorce himself from this gang, and had it not taken place, he would have more than likely remained there with them, stinking the place up with their anti-Islamic rhetoric that has but one benefit only, and we know who that is.
Martinez leaves comments here on TUT from time to time trying to pick a fight and in the interests of ceating a public spectacle/diversion by which he may garner some attention. The fact that he might write a few things that seem to contribute to a better understanding of the problems we all face as a result of Judaic intrigue is pointless when one considers that other ‘contributions’ he makes that are senseless and insensible, including his ridiculous assertions concerning yours truly being a ‘paid, personal agent of Vladimir Putin and the Russian government’ by virtue of my rational defense of Putin and the fact that I have made several appearances on Russia Today as a guest.
Israel’s attack based upon the ‘mistaking’ the LIBERTY for another Egyptian ship is the same as her ‘mistaking’ those civilians she bombs, blows up and shoots for ‘combatants’. It is all deliberate and no one should make the mistake of believing ANYTHING that comes out of her hasbarah machine.
Nothing in the article talks about the Israeli made planes, pictures taken by U.S.S. Liberty, have Israeli insignia removed, so I.D. can not be “verified”. Also, there were rumors of a USA submarine “Amberjack” was involved.