ed note–keep in mind that if Trump were bombing the hell out of the Middle East as Judea, Inc is demanding, there would be no special prosecutor looking into ‘Russian elections meddling’ and no talk of having Trump declared unfit to govern under the provisions of the 25th Amendment. Clearly, if ever there were a case for considering the mental health of a sitting President, it was George W. Bush, and yet–because he was Judea, Inc’s willing Golem in murdering millions of innocent people in Iraq and elsewhere–somehow any and all discussion of his faculties just never seemed to come up.

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Eight months ago, moved by what we were witnessing in the American president, we joined 25 other psychiatrists and mental health experts in putting our concerns into a book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. We believed Trump’s mental state presented a danger to the public and felt we had a duty to warn them. We intended the book, which became a best-seller, as a service, putting the royalties into a fund for public good.

Since the book’s publication, however, we have faced a wave of backlash—not just from political observers but from doctors in our own field. Many commentators claimed that we were violating the Goldwater rule, the American Psychiatric Association’s ethical directive that psychiatrists should not diagnose anyone they have not personally evaluated. A past president of the American Psychiatric Association called our work “tawdry, indulgent, fatuous, tabloid psychiatry.” We heard similar criticisms last week, after Politico reported that one of us, Dr. Bandy Lee, had met with members of Congress to discuss the president’s behavior and mental health.

But these criticisms get two things wrong: first, that we are violating the Goldwater rule, and second, that we should avoid talking about the president’s mental health. Without diagnosing Trump in a specific way, as the Goldwater rule prohibits, it is not only acceptable but vitally necessary to have a public conversation about mental state of our nation’s leader.

When the American Psychiatric Association created the Goldwater rule in 1973, in reaction to an article in Fact magazine citing hundreds of psychiatrists who had said Republican candidate Barry Goldwater was unfit to be president, the association was rightly concerned that the profession’s reputation would be harmed by careless opinions made in public. But the APA recently decided to interpret the rule more strictly: Where previously it forbade only diagnosis from afar, as of March 2017 the association says it prohibits any commenting on the mental health of a public figure. Orthopedists, cardiologists and other medical authorities can enlighten the public about health issues that affect public figures, such as heart conditions—but physicians with specific training and experience in mental disorders cannot. By fiat of the APA, the Goldwater rule has effectively turned into a gag rule.

The Goldwater rule, in its original conception, served an important purpose—one that our writings and speeches have not undermined. All 27 experts who contributed to The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump took pains not to diagnose the president in the book. (Bandy, who edited the book, is a strong proponent of the Goldwater rule and particularly opposes modifying it under political pressure.) A formal psychiatric diagnosis is reached after careful study of the patient, including taking a history, performing a physical, reviewing lab results and history of past illnesses and treatments, and obtaining supplementary perspectives from close family members. A diagnosis forms the basis for a treatment plan individually designed for that patient’s future care. An individual’s dangerousness, however, can be reliably assessed by interviewing co-workers and intimates, reviewing the individual’s past statements and behaviors, reviewing police reports and, crucially, assessing context. While an in-person interview can be quite useful, it is not strictly required to assess danger.

Furthermore, we are not interested in Trump’s personal issues, which are his private affair. We comment on the traits of the president only in relation to the public office he holds, and with the express interest of educating and warning the public against danger.

Not only does our book not violate the Goldwater rule, but the APA’s expanded interpretation of it is at odds with the association’s ethics code, which actually allows psychiatrists to speak about psychiatric issues in general when asked about a public figure. In fact, the code obligates psychiatrists to “participate in activities contributing to … the betterment of public health.” Thus, quashing a conversation that serves in the interest of public health, as the APA is now doing, directly contradicts the principles of medical ethics, as well as those of the World Medical Association’s 1948 Geneva Declaration, which clarified the humanitarian goals of medicine. Both of us have resigned from the APA—Leonard Glass, once a distinguished life fellow, did so in direct response to the association’s new interpretation of the Goldwater rule, and Bandy, once a fellow, did so more than a decade ago because of the association’s close ties with the pharmaceutical industry.

It was with all of this in mind that Bandy, along with the psychiatrist James Gilligan, agreed to meet last month with a dozen members of Congress, all but one of them Democrats. (A former member had originally asked her to testify before all of Congress, but when this was delayed, a former assistant U.S. attorney arranged for her to meet with members individually.) By meeting with lawmakers, she was abiding by the APA’s ethical guidelines, which precede the Goldwater rule and instruct psychiatrists “to serve society by advising and consulting with the executive, legislative, and judiciary branches of the government.” In these meetings, she discussed purely medical matters without partisan affiliation or investment in a certain political outcome, which is for lawmakers to decide.

While the meetings were private and confidential, in general it’s fair to say the members themselves were forthright. “You don’t have to convince us. We have been so concerned ourselves. We were eager to meet with you,” was a common answer. One lawmaker said: “I have never so waited for a meeting in 11 years.” Several Democrats said they knew of Republican lawmakers who shared their concerns but could not express them publicly. They charged us to continue educating the public.

Any president’s mental health is inextricably tied to our health as a society, and, in this case, Trump’s mental state poses a serious danger that we must be willing to discuss and address. As Bandy told members of Congress, a few signs of this danger are: verbal aggressiveness, boasting about sexual assaults, inciting violence in others and the continual taunting of a hostile nation with nuclear weapons. Additional traits that are concerning are impulsiveness, recklessness, paranoia and rage reactions; a loose grip on reality with a poor understanding of consequences; a lack of empathy and belligerence toward others; and a constant need to demonstrate power. Trump’s recent tweet insisting he is a “very stable genius,” in response to claims about his mental capacity in a recent book by journalist Michael Wolff, confirmed our concerns about Trump: He appears not to perceive how critical any defect in his mental sharpness could be, or how imperative it is that he protect the country before his own reputation.

Cognitive function, or the ability to process knowledge and thoughts, is of critical importance for the office he holds, and its decline can be another danger sign. Some observers—including his own staff, according Wolff’s book—have noted a decline in Trump’s ability to form complete sentences, to stay with a thought, to use complex words and not to make loose associations. Only a thorough examination of Trump himself and his medical records, among other sources, could yield a diagnosis of these signs. Again, a diagnosis, prognosis and treatment are Trump’s private business and not ours. What is our business, as health professionals who have a duty to the public, is whether the president and commander in chief has the capacity to serve in office. Those questions are what mobilized us to speak out about our concerns in the first place, so that we can fulfill our duties to educate and to warn the public about an erratic and unstable leader, to help protect its and our own safety and well-being.

In early 20th-century Germany, the sociologist Max Weber argued that intellectuals should not utter any political opinions or say anything that could remotely be regarded as partisan—a Goldwater rule of sorts for the era. Under Nazism, not only psychiatrists but most German clergymen, professors, lawyers, doctors and other leading thinkers became passive enablers of some of the worst atrocities under a dangerous political leader who led their country into the worst disaster in its history. It was precisely in response to Nazism that the World Medical Association issued its Geneva Declaration. Seventy years later, we must not forget the declaration’s commitment to the common good, and cannot stay silent.

9 thoughts on “How They Do It– 'We’re Psychiatrists. It’s Our Duty to Question the President’s Mental State'”
  1. What rubbish – pulling out the nonsense Holocaust narrative further discredits their work as being objective scientific analysis. Shonks galore in a field where the only visible scientific discipline is statistics. And we know that there are liars, bloody liars and statisticians!

  2. “…if Trump were bombing the hell out of the Middle East as Judea, Inc is demanding, there would be no special prosecutor looking into ‘Russian elections meddling’ and no talk of having Trump declared unfit to govern under the provisions of the 25th Amendment.”
    I’m wondering how ‘Russian elections meddling’ enters this equation?
    As for bombing the hell out of something ??? me thinks that the eyes/voices of the nations Drs. in this arena should chime in…and with any other part of the equation.
    How unfortunate that the Physiologists didn’t give a serious lashing to the mental retard Phycho’s who spent tons of time on the Taxpayer Dime to TORTURE at the behest of the Retards in the WH, still filthy dirty … and will forever remain Filthy Dirty till Warmongers are brought to justice.
    This is a Gov’t built on Lobbying and if you will, consider this pursuit of ‘mental fitness’ part of that lobby…albeit Not registered in the halls of Congress; however speaking or at least chiming in are a plethora of Dr.s who know what is aberrant behavior/language. These are not used car salespeople.
    GW Bush was a ‘made man’ too stoopid to pour piss out of a boot…but that didn’t make him a Monster (although i spent mass hrs trying to get him impeached) as he was hidden behind the 4F trousers of Dick shoot ‘um in the face Cheney. Wish i’d have heard from the nations Psych Dr.s on this paramount issue…but if you can muddy the waters till you reap the bennies then its ok.
    I’ll end with: ALL Repugs are Narcissistic Authoritarians, which makes them ALL, Psycho’s to begin with. But this Clown-Pres speaks out of whatever side of his mouth he knows won’t bite his _____ to gross to invision:)

  3. Psychiatrists using sophistry to claim they are not doing exactly as they are doing is a sure sign of mental illness. The inane idiocy used to con us that the Goldwater Rule is not being violated and that it does not apply to them is enough to arrest all on a protective custody order to evaluate their grasp on reality.

  4. That this blog still defends Drumpf as defying the Chabads who installed and control him, is ridiculous. Take a page from Alex Jones and wait in line.
    WTFU
    Ed note–the only ‘page’ that needs to be taken is from the book of stupidity as it relates to your comment. This isn’t a piece defending Trump, only pointing out the obvious, which is the 25/7 operation in trying to remove him on the part of those same organized Jewish interests whom you claim control him.
    In all the years I’ve been doing this, if there was one thing alone (outside of the ‘Sandy Hook never happened’ fiasco) that would have convinced me that the process of liberating ourselves from Jewish power was basically a hopeless venture, it is this business involving Trump.
    That the Jews want him GONE is as evident as the assassination of JFK and yet you people don’t have the MINIMUM REQUIRED INTELLIGENCE to recognize this fact.
    You are worse than pseudo-intellectuals, in that at least PIs do no harm to anyone or anything with their vapid commentary other than making themselves look stupid. You people on the other hand don’t possess the necessary wits needed in seeing how you have become enablers for the very same entity which you claim to be opposing and that in the halls of Judaic power, that you are derided with particular contempt based upon this fact. Everytime the spies working for ADL, AIPAC et al see comments such as this one from morons such as you, they view it a another arrow in their barrage against a political opponent to whose demise they have dedicated all their efforts and energies.

  5. This only demonstrates (yet again) how the whole pseudo-science of psychiatry/psychology has FOREVER been the tool of politics/politicians and those with an ideological axe to grind. These are the same people who are “re-defining” pederasts & pedophiliacs, as “minor attracted people”. If given enough time, their perversion will be called, “an offer a minor can’t legally refuse”.
    Drop dead, and the sooner the better.

  6. Most seem to see paedophilia pretty clearly. Even if the child is willing and not “hurt” most seem to comprehend the child cannot understand the implications of the act so is not capable of consent and “hurt” is not severable from the act even if there are no visible or discernible injuries. Most seem to lack any comprehension of how much deeper and how much more hurt this quote embodies, “What is the crime of robbing a bank, compared with the crime of founding one?” Bertolt Brecht
    which leads to this one, “Give me control of a nations currency and I care not who makes its laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild
    which leads directly to this one, “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild
    The effort to make paedophilia acceptable is far less dangerous than what most have accepted as a normal mode of living, funding warfare claiming no choice. Most accept the mass slaughter of entire families, towns even countries yet rail against what still allows life to continue albeit on a very different level. The reason this attempt to make paedophilia acceptable is happening is because most have accepted jewish rule so jews are imposing their world order step by step as we accept each one.

  7. Trump is on a steep learning curve but has two anchors holding him back. He is learning the realities of the jew while trying to deal with his son in law and daughters choices which he sees with a myopic view at this point. He is a business man and will not be able to blind himself to what is preventing his new business endeavour, the U.S. from flourishing and who is responsible for the pogroms preventing rationality from ruling actions and laws. He has two opposing directions to choose and he is being dragged down the wrong path by those he is still learning of.

  8. the above “ed-note” is worth more than the article itself, eg,

    YOU PEOPLE ON THE OTHER HAND DON’T POSSESS THE NECESSARY WITS NEEDED IN SEEING HOW YOU HAVE BECOME ENABLERS FOR THE VERY SAME ENTITY WHICH YOU CLAIM TO BE OPPOSING AND THAT IN THE HALLS OF JUDAIC POWER, THAT YOU ARE DERIDED WITH PARTICULAR CONTEMPT BASED UPON THIS FACT.

    to those unable or unwilling to think, look at the stopwatch, if you quit within the first 7 sec, then the following advice is for you.
    An exercise in simple bean counting, each white bean denotes “jew org or a single prominent jew loves trump”, black bean means “jew org or a single prominent jew hates trump”, keeping in mind that jew hates with true passion and loves with fake passion – quite unable to keep up the pretense for long, just long enough to execute a backstab or ritual sacrifice.
    for example, the new york times is definitely a black bean, netanyahu, a suspect white bean, giant pussyhat marches, antifa, each earn a black bean, ivanka trump (qualifies as important thru blood connection) is white bean, etc.
    • tally them up after running out of meaningful sources.
    • if white beans are dominant, ie, outnumber the black ones, then you are right, trump is owned by jews
    • if on the other hand, the black beans are more numerous (we did assume you can count reasonably accurately), then the inescapable fact is that jew hates, truly hates trump and because jew hate is jew’s single point of truth, it should clinch the issue.
    it should be perfectly, beyond the shadow of doubt be clear that JEW hates, fears, loathes Trump, qed.
    And whoever sides with JEW (on ANY issue) is a shabbo, pure and simple and the world would be better off without shabbos, right?
    JEW has perected this game over many centuries, has inbred himself with particular emphasis on the ability to play this game, so let him-his behavior be your guide if you are too lazy or incompetent to judge properly and rationally, videlicet, whover JEW hates, considers Enemy, you should welcome as ally.
    And by this yardstick, TRUMP IS OUR ALLY, however painful, bitter or sour some of his actions may seem, cut him some slack because 2017 was the worst year on record for JEW since, oh maybe 1492 when the holy couple Isabella and ferdinand kicked their diseased asses out of Iberian peninsula.

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