Israeli TV reports that sources familiar with findings voiced ‘deep frustration’ over missed signs terror group was set to invade: Should have ‘lit up all the red lights’
ed note–The Oct 7th attacks were 9 months ago, and since that time there have been many, many stories indicating in the strongest possible terms what was Israeli foreknowledge of what was to take place, but now, as if it were a completely new item up for discussion, it seems to be the talk of the town…
And the obvious question that any sensible person–and especially those fully aware of the fact that WWIII/Armageddon are about to blow–is of course, ‘WHY’.
If the news reports are to be believed (and that is always a big IF when dealing with a ‘state’ such as Israel that is constitutionally and institutionally filled to the brim with liars, thieves, child molestors and murderers) there seems, we stress, SEEMS, to be some ‘divergence of opinion’ between what is the political class and the military.
The political class, headed by Torah-terrorist nutcases such as Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotrich and the rest, are dead set upon seeing WWIII/Armageddon take place in order to bring about the fulfillment of all those silly Judaic ‘prophecies’ promising the arrival of the ‘Moschiac’ who will raise the Jewish people up as the uncontested rulers of the world.
The IDF however–which actually has to do the ‘manual labor’ of fighting wars, must, by virtue of who and what they are, deal with things from this locale known as the Hotel Reality, and what they know as guests in that locale is that all of these grandiose messianic plans for which the Torah-Terrorist nutcases such as Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotrich and the rest are pushing will undoubtedly lead to a repeat of those 2 previous events wherein the Jews decided to take on the dominant world empires at those times, i.e. the Babylonians and the Romans, and which led to the destruction of what was then at those times ‘The Jewish State’.
THEREFORE, what appears to be taking place here is an information/disinformation war between the political strata in Israel and the military. It is possible–POSSIBLE–that the heads of the IDF were planning to ‘go public’ with info concerning foreknowledge of the impending Oct. 7th attacks on the part of the political class and that Netanyahu & co found out about it ahead of time and now have beat the heads of the IDF to the punch.
Yes, ladies and Gentile-men, sometimes the Jews fight with each other, and yes, fighting did indeed take place in the previously-mentioned instances where the ‘hotheads’ thought that war with the Babylonians and then the Romans was a good idea, vs the more ‘sane’ (if such an adjective can be used when talking about a Jew) elements who recognized that the whole thing was (borrowing a really irritating word that the Jews like to throw around a lot) ‘meshugganah’.
Either way, the bottom line of all of it, no matter who winds up holding the bag and getting the blame, is that Israel knew what was coming, and allowed it to happen for all the reasons that are now obvious and apparent, and it is only the delusional or the duplicitous who maintain that the events of that day ‘took Israel by surprise’.
And, finalmente, to all the pro-Palestinian types who to this day refuse to come to the only conclusion on this that can withstand the rigors of plain old common sense, yes, we know it sounds good, this ‘Hamas bested Israel’ business to which so many of you cling, but after 100,000 dead and who knows how many more millions will die once this thing hits Lebanon, Iran, Syria etc, it’s time to end your vacation on Fantasy Island and check back into the Hotel Reality.
Times of Israel
An investigation by the IDF Military Intelligence Directorate into the events surrounding Hamas’s October 7 invasion and slaughter in southern Israel, presented to Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi on Monday night, has found that there were more than enough indications of the imminent Hamas attack to have set off warning lights and enabled the prevention of the catastrophe, Israeli television reported.
The results of the probe, which Channel 12 news described as the ‘initial findings,’ were presented to Halevi at a high-level meeting in his office, at which participants were required to sign a document pledging not to leak the material and agreeing to undergo polygraph tests if necessary in the future.
The TV report quoted ‘sources familiar’ with the Intelligence Directorate probe as saying there were signs ahead of the attack that should have ‘lit up all the red lights’ and that ‘we’ve mobilized various fronts in the past on less than this.’
People who have seen the material in the investigation have expressed ‘deep frustration,’ the TV report said, because it should have been possible to ‘connect all the dots and prevent this.’
Participants in the Monday night meeting were also reportedly presented with material covering the IDF Gaza Division’s assessments from the time of the March 2018 Hamas-led Gaza border riots until October 7, 2023.
They also saw specific material concerning the events of October 6 and 7, the report added.
The presentation covered ‘what each of the various IDF elements knew, what information they shared with each other, and what steps were taken in light of what they understood.’
The TV report said there were no arguments over the facts, but that there were disagreements ‘to some extent over interpretations.’
Although the Intelligence Directorate probe was said by military sources to have been ‘very thorough,’ others estimated that Halevi may not accept the findings and instead seek a fuller investigation, led by incoming IDF intelligence chief Maj. Gen. Shlomi Binder.
According to the report, this decision could be made due to ‘tensions’ between the chief of staff and outgoing intelligence chief Maj. Gen. Aharon Haliva, who announced his resignation back in April, citing his role in the failures that led to the October 7 massacre.
In March, the IDF announced that it had sent out protocols to commanders on how their units were to carry out internal investigations.
The probes are aimed solely at drawing operational conclusions for the military, and will not look into the policies of the political leadership in order to avoid a fight with government leaders who have insisted that investigations wait until after the end of Israel’s war against Hamas.
Alongside the initial findings presented to Halevi, the IDF is expected to present, at a future date, the investigations into the battles between October 7 and 10 — the point at which troops restored control over the communities and army bases in southern Israel that had been invaded by Hamas.
There were some 40 battle locations, which are being investigated by more than 20 military commanders.
In June, the IDF said it hoped to complete all the battle investigations by the end of August.
Some 3,000 Hamas-led terrorists burst from the Gaza Strip into southern Israel on October 7, carrying out a murderous rampage of unprecedented intensity and breadth. The IDF struggled to mount a response, with bases closest to the border overrun and the chain of command seemingly broken amid the chaos.
In response, Israel launched a military campaign aimed at destroying Hamas and winning the freedom of hostages, 120 of whom still remain in captivity.
The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry says more than 37,900 people in the Strip have been killed or are presumed dead in the fighting so far.
Israel’s death toll in the ground offensive against Hamas in Gaza and in military operations along the border with the Strip stands at 322.
The investigations being presented to Halevi are not related to planned external probes of the army’s conduct in the lead-up to October 7, which are currently on hold. Plans for the independent review were met with protests from government leaders, who apparently feared they could be criticized.
In late January, Halevi said an external investigation would only be launched once the internal probes were completed.
State Comptroller Matanyahu Englman also began to investigate the army’s failures as well as the conduct of the government, although in June, the High Court ordered him to suspend any aspects of the investigation that dealt with the IDF and the Shin Bet domestic intelligence agency.