Two of her most famous quotes remain sourceless and bereft, despite the best efforts of The Jewish Press writer Harvey Rachlin.
Ha’aretz
“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”
It is one of the most iconic quotes of modern Jewish history – universally known; revered for its heartfelt message; and frequently cited by historians, biographers, journalists, and politicians as well as by ordinary citizens throughout the world, Jews and non-Jews alike.
But did Golda Meir – a signer of Israel’s declaration of independence who went on to serve the country in many crucial roles including, of course, prime minister – to whom this august dictum is attributed, really say it?
It never dawned on me to question the remark’s authenticity as I’d always assumed it was an unassailable and indelible part of oratory history, in a class with the immortal “Four score and seven years ago” and “I have a dream.”
But doubts started to surface while I was researching an article on the greatest Jewish quotes of the twentieth century. After rummaging through a plethora of sources and giving much consideration to a number of linguistic gems, I selected my ten illustrious quotes, with Meir’s statement among them.
Pithy, earnest, and beseeching, it always seemed the quintessential expression of the frustration Israelis have experienced in desiring to live in peace with their Arab neighbors. I was curious to learn the context in which Meir made this remark and, because words are frequently altered from one citing to another, I wanted to find the quote’s original source to make sure I had her precise words.
The quote has been reproduced in countless books and articles in print as well as online, and many of these cite as their source A Land of Our Own: An Oral Autobiography by Golda Meir, edited by Marie Syrkin and published by G. P. Putnam’s Sons in 1973. The quote appears, along with several others, on the last page of the book’s text (before the index) under the heading “On Peace.” Its source is given as: National Press Club, Washington, 1957.
I wrote to the National Press Club in an effort to obtain a copy of Meir’s 1957 speech. The response I received was that Meir, who at the time was Israel’s foreign minister, did not speak there in 1957. She had, however, addressed a club luncheon on December 11, 1956. Well, authors do make mistakes, and maybe Syrkin got the year wrong. Besides, December 1956 is pretty close to 1957.
The National Press Club did not have a copy of Meir’s 1956 speech, so I searched far and wide for one. None of the repositories in the U.S. that I contacted had a copy, nor did they have any record of Meir’s ever having made the statement I was looking for. These archives included the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Library (where many of Meir’s papers are located); the Jewish Women’s Archive in Brookline, Massachusetts; the Dorot Jewish Division of the New York Public Library; and the American Jewish Archives in Cincinnati, which houses Syrkin’s papers.
It turned out the Recorded Sound Research Center of the Library of Congress had a recording of Meir’s National Press Club speech, but before I could get to Washington to listen to it, I obtained a transcript of the speech from the Israel State Archives.
Breathlessly I read it – but, alas, Meir’s elusive quote was not there.
With no primary source found for this world-famous statement, a previously unfathomable question came to mind: Did Golda Meir really say it?
Golda Meir beloved pop.Photo by Ophir Harel
As the author of numerous books, I’ve learned in my research that it is not unusual for myths, false statements, half-truths, quasi-truths, exaggerations, distortions, and all sorts of other apocrypha to creep into the public mind. They enter it through the main arteries of communication and its back alleyways and all too often are accepted without question by the public at large.
For example, schoolchildren of past generations were taught that when George Washington’s father asked if he’d chopped down a cherry tree, young George responded: “I cannot tell a lie.” The story was actually a fabrication that had its roots in Mason Locke Weems’s 1800 book The Life and Memorable Actions of George Washington.
Another example: It was long thought that Abraham Lincoln composed his famous Gettysburg Address on the train to that Pennsylvania city, but even though there were people who claimed to have seen Lincoln writing on the train, the assertion that he wrote the address en route to Gettysburg has been shown to be spurious. (Historians have concluded that the president finished at least part of his speech before he left the White House and may have put the final touches on it between the time he arrived at Gettysburg and the ceremonies the next morning.)
One more: It was for many decades considered as fact that Abner Doubleday invented the game of baseball in Cooperstown, New York, in 1839. However, not only is there no known record of Doubleday even setting foot in Cooperstown, we now know the myth had its origin in the unsubstantiated conclusions of a committee that felt its promulgation would create a patriotic and romantic image for the sport.
As if the enigma of Meir’s “Peace will come” statement were not troubling enough, there is, astonishingly, another ultra-famous Meir quote whose origin seems mired in doubt:
“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
The possibility that Meir never really said this was brought to my attention by Jason Maoz, senior editor of The Jewish Press. He had been on the trail of this celebrated quote a while back, trying assiduously to find its provenance and ending up with the same dead ends and frustrations I did with the “Peace will come” statement.
Portrait of Golda Meir: Were the quotes ascribed to her even consistent with her character? Portrait by Jay Caros. Photo by Moshe Milner / GPO
Launching myself on a quest to track down another Meir gem, I got in touch with all the repositories and archives I’d contacted for the “Peace will come” quote. One by one, the responses all came back carrying the same empty message: No primary source can be found for this quote.
In my relentless search for original sources for the two quotes, I scoured innumerable websites and newspaper indexes as well as several Meir biographies.
The discerning reader is aware that quotes in nonfiction books often don’t come from original sources but are derived from secondary ones. Not always reliable, secondary sources come with a caveat: they may be in error or may be repeating errors from other sources. Therefore, in verifying quotes the scrupulous researcher needs to follow the chain of citations back to the very first one and ascertain if indeed that first citation itself is from a bona fide original source.
Curiously, most of the books I looked at, as well as Meir’s own autobiography, My Life, contained no mention of these two most famous Meir quotes. Nor was either of them included in The New York Times’s 4,883-word December 9, 1978 obituary of Meir – although Times reporter Israel Shenker found room for more than three dozen other quotes from Meir.
My investigation took a turn when I found a 1970 collection of Meir quotes titled As Good As Golda: The Warmth and Wisdom of Israel’s Prime Minister. In this book there are two quotes that bear close resemblance to the pair in question: “Peace will come when Nasser loves his own children more than he hates the Israelis” and “What we hold against Nasser is not only the killing of our sons but forcing them for the sake of Israel’s survival to kill others.”
Strangely, there are no citations for any of the quotes in the book, and while I found these two exact quotes in other books (all published in or after 1970) none of the citations were from original sources. Even more bizarre is that As Good As Golda was compiled and edited by Israel and Mary Shenker – yes, the same Israel Shenker who several years later would write the massive New York Times obituary that contained dozens of Meir quotes but, notably, not her two most famous ones. (We’ll probably never solve that particular puzzle as Mr. and Mrs. Shenker are both deceased.)
In investigating the veracity of a historical occurrence or quote, one also wants to consider whether the event or statement in question is consistent with the personality, habits, or disposition of the public figure connected to it. Just as it would have been out of character for the diligent Lincoln to have hastily written his Gettysburg Address on the train to Gettysburg or to have ad-libbed his speech on the Gettysburg battlefield, the sentimental nature of Meir’s alleged pronouncement about “forgiv[ing] the Arabs for killing our sons” seems inconsistent with her character.
Nasser was an avowed enemy of Israel who desired, along with Egypt’s Arab neighbors, to destroy the country. With so much Jewish blood having been spilled to preserve the nation’s very existence, would the iron-willed and resolute Meir really have said something that has such an abject ring of supplication and liberal political correctness to it?
In the chapter in her autobiography on the Yom Kippur War, Meir wrote: “For years we not only had seen our sons killed but had tolerated a situation so grotesque that it is almost unbelievable: The only time that Arab states were prepared to recognize the State of Israel was when they had attacked it in order to wipe it out.”
Golda Meir, accompanied by her Defense Minister Moshe Dayan (C), meets with Israeli soldiers at a base on the Golan Heights during the Yom Kippur War, Nov. 21 1973.Photo by Reuters
In her manifest disgust with the Arab wish to annhilate Israel, she certainly does not sound like she would have said something even remotely like “When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
And yet, despite the lack of verification for either statement and the fact that the “forgive them” quote in particular hardly accords with Meir’s well-known hardheaded persona, they’ve both become entrenched as immutable fact, as truth carved in stone, when apparently they stand on a foundation built of sand.
Historical truth is ill served when so many people want to believe something even if it may not be true. A reputable scholar contacted by one of the archives I was in touch with for this article insisted on the veracity of the quotes – but at the same time acknowledged he couldn’t offer any evidence for them!
In August 2014, in the wake of Israel’s Operation Protective Edge against Hamas in Gaza, the Anti-Defamation League placed an ad in The Hollywood Reporter that highlighted the two iconic Meir quotes and suggested they were applicable to contemporary events; readers were asked to join the 18 Hollywood executives whose names were listed “in calling upon world leaders and decent people everywhere to ensure that Hamas terrorists cannot be rearmed…”
The ad had both Meir quotes strung together with the singular attribution “Golda Meir (1957).”
The ADL did not respond to repeated requests from The Jewish Press for a statement as to whether the organization possessed any verification of the quotes and why they ran together, as though they were part of the same statement.
Many references to the two Meir quotes either cite the aforementioned Marie Syrkin as the source or don’t give her name but cite the places and years she provided for the statements. As noted earlier, the quotes appear in Syrkin’s A Land of Our Own, both on the same page, one underneath the other. The parenthetical attribution that follows the second quote, the one about forgiving the Arabs, is “Press conference in London, 1969.” Perhaps the only thing accurate about that citation is that Meir was in fact in London in 1969.
It is disconcerting to think that Syrkin, who passed away in 1989, may have made up the quotes for Meir or that she somehow got them wrong. She was a respected scholar and a friend of Meir who wrote prolifically about her and edited some of her speeches.
However, a hint that Syrkin may have at least taken some artistic license in editing Meir can be glimpsed in this aside by Asher Weill, the managing director of the book publisher Weidenfeld and Nicolson: “Mrs. Meir does not want the speeches to appear necessarily verbatim but they should be judiciously cut and style-edited.”
All said, it seems there are three possibilities surrounding the mystery of Meir’s two most heralded but troublingly elusive quotes:
(1) The words were indeed spoken by Meir exactly as we know them today and I and the researchers at the various repositories I contacted were remiss in not locating them in their original sources.
(2) Meir expressed the thoughts in somewhat different language and Syrkin or someone else rewrote them as the quotes we are all familiar with.
(3) Meir never said them at all.
Many of us – perhaps most of us – will find it hard to accept that these two gems that have become inextricable parts of the fabric of twentieth-century Jewish history and folklore did not come from the mouth of Golda Meir. But until their authenticity can incontrovertibly be verified, it cannot be said with certainty that Meir ever said either one of them.
6 thoughts on “Misquoting Golda Meir: Did she or didn’t she?”
This article is an example of Jewish mental onanism and obsessive self-worship, and a Talmudic exercise in “analyzing” imaginary products of their myth-making tribal workshops.
Whether or not she said this or that, she was the female exemplar of Jewish supremacism for whom hecatombs of “Goyim” are — to quote another female war criminal of the same tribe, Madeleine I-am-an Episcopalian Albright — “worth it” to cut a path toward “Eretz Israel.”
Nevertheless, the approximate quote attributed to her, “I hate the Palestinians for making us kill their sons,” fits her and her ilk. As the Italians say, “Se non è vero, è ben trovato.” It encapsulates the cynicism and shameless travesty of their criminal acts. It continues today with very similar statements about the IDF oh, trying so hard to avoid civilian deaths if only Hamas would stop “hiding” among them.
She said it.Aradnathio has it down brilliantly. The Jews ,and their Gentile worshipors must “kill you”, because the Jews have “no other choice”. Bottom line!
Great site, and I love the articles MG and the crew puts up about the reality of pretty much living under the yoke of Talmudic Law in this zionist colony of the former United States.
However, did you guys maybe make a mistake by having LBJ in the first photo? Regardless, what a low-life traitor for Zion, who of course betrayed America with his (and other traitorous, zionist stooges and puppets) cover-up of the Israhelli terrorist attack of the USS Liberty…
Anyway, in regards to that POS Yahoodi supremacist, war (and peace) criminal, I think that the writer of the article didn’t mention one of the more famous “words of wisdom” (sic) that the zionist supremacist, lying propagandist Meir uttered (and I’m paraphrasing):
>>>Give land back to the Palestinians? Well, there is no such thing as a Palestinian… So, who would we give it back to?<<<
I guess I'm wrong? Maybe one of the other psychopathic, gangster, terrorist, Israhelli war criminals said this…
Of course I don't know why this zionist war criminal apologist and propagandist writer was "kvetching" on and on and on about getting so-called "properly sourced quotes." After all, he and his brothers/sisters are always stretching the truth, using half truths, and straight-up lying through their "you know what" about many other things, so why the need for this guy to NOW be accurate?! I don't get it!
"This is a land without a people, for a people without a land…"
"We always wanted peace…"
"We don't control the media, Hollywood, Wall Street, the 'US' (sic) govt. and other western govts., the Universities, and many other things… That's an evil blood libel!"
"Watch out! The Muslims are about to take over the govt., the media, Hollywood, the financial system… and everything else! Oh my G*d!"
"And no I'm NOT lying, I'm being 1000% honest and truthful about the 'Islamics' taking over at any second… Not because I'm a trouble making, war-mongering, Yahoodi supremacist for the sake of Zion, and put Israhell first (and 2nd and 3rd)… I'm telling you all of these 'truths' because I love America and I'm an 'American' (sic) Patriot!"
"Yeah, of course… Bush and the neocons attacked Iraq ONLY because of oil! And that's why the 'US Imperialists' want to attack Iran… It has nothing to do with Yahoodi supremacism, Zion, or greater Israhell!"
"I, nor any other chosenites would NEVER, ever say or think anything bad or negative about Jesus (pbuh); we just have to expose Muhammad (pbuh), because we are for 'free speech!'"
"I am loyal to the United States… And I put America first!"
"We really, really love and respect free speech and the first amendment!"
"We did NOT start Judeo-Bol, uh, I mean 'Bolshevism' and vanquish millions in the process… That's another 'blood libel!'"
"Uhh, yeah… The 'Islamics' are 'controlling' Obomber, yeah, that's the ticket! And no, there are NO 'Chicagoan' Chosenite, duel citizen, zionist supremacists behind him, funding him, pulling the strings, etc., etc. That's just a 'rumor' ….likely started by evil Nazis and 'Islamics!'"
"Hollywood and film producers have made around 95,165 holocaust movies not because we absolutely and totally control Hollywood, no, but because they are so important, entertaining, and interesting to the goys!"
Etc., I mean I could be here all day, lol
Great comment, Zogistan. I’d only make a small correction regarding this:
“”I, nor any other chosenites would NEVER, ever say or think anything bad or negative about Jesus (pbuh); we just have to expose Muhammad (pbuh), because we are for ‘free speech!'”
ASren’t you familiar with Sarah Dilverman;s stand-up routine (“I’d f@##ing kill Jesus!”) or with Larry David’s Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where he pees on a a Jesus icon.
Of course I was being “facetious” about the Chosenites not having hate or disdain for Jesus son of Mary (pbuh)…
Maybe it wasn’t funny (and that’s my fault, lol), but that was basically the whole point of my post. I was trying to be humorous, of course. The point I was trying to make was, why would this one Joo writer in the article that was posted, really care about finding “accurate sources” for the various quotes that this murderous, lying, war criminal, Golda Meir (his “hero”) allegedly said? Our Chosenite friends are often lying about other things (whether using half-truths, white lies, or total, 100% lies and/or fabrications), so why would this one writer NOW care about journalistic ethics, integrity, or honestly?
I was attributing various quotes or statements (each statement literally had “quotation” marks) that they will likely say and/or have said in the past (I was using general paraphrasing).
And yes, I do know what that alleged “comedian” [sic] Sarah Silverman has said about Jesus (pbuh), and also what the other so-called “comedian” L. David did with the crucifix in one of his “comedic” [sic] episodes.
And of course, any J wise person obviously should know about the utterly despicable, evil things that the Rabbis say about Jesus and Mary (pbut) in their “Holy” Talmud, regardless of whether or not we heard about what their comedians may have said. That was the reason for the quote that I attributed to them about Jesus (pbuh) (i.e. concocting lies and using subterfuge when talking to us “Goys”). Obviously they want their dumbed down, ignorant, totally brainwashed Goy slaves (mostly Western/Christian ones these days) to fight and die in more wars for the sake of the criminal, zionist entity, and they will of course flat out lie about their (or at least their classical Rabbis’) true feelings and opinions of Christianity, and Jesus son of Mary (pbuh).
The fact that most (?) Christians are TOTALLY unaware and have NO idea what the classical Judaic opinions and feelings are regarding Jesus and his mother (pbut) (i.e. what is written in their Talmud) is really astounding, hard to believe, and almost leaves one speechless.
One day I even heard that POS, fanatical, ziocon, Israhell first (and 2nd and 3rd), joo supremacist, fake “American” [sic] patriot, Mike Weiner “Savage,” going on and on wildly “kvetching” about the fact that Obomber as a “Muslim” – as he was saying all Muslims as a matter of fact – really “hates” Jesus (pbuh)! Yes, that despicable, traitorous, zionist Israhelli agent, actually had the “chutzpah” to say this about Muslims (of course he was lying about Obomber too, as we all know he’s nothing but a zionist puppet and stooge). And no, that joo supremacist, Weiner, may be a serious POS, but he’s not exactly dumb (and he would have known that Muslims love and revere Jesus, believe in the Virgin Birth, call Jesus the Messiah, and believe in his second coming, etc.) so obviously he was flat out LYING. I was thinking, this POS, joo supremacist, Israhell First, faux “American” [sic] nationalist is actually “inciting” and propagandizing millions and millions of ignorant, unknowing, naive “Christians,” to of course really hate Muslims (even more so) with all of his false lies, but also getting them to be willing to again go to war for the sake of Zion and greater Israhell. Of course, it’s the Christians’ fault that they can be so easily lied to, misled, and bamboozled, by the same people whom in their own New Testament are called “the children of the Devil” by Jesus (pbuh)!
This article is an example of Jewish mental onanism and obsessive self-worship, and a Talmudic exercise in “analyzing” imaginary products of their myth-making tribal workshops.
Whether or not she said this or that, she was the female exemplar of Jewish supremacism for whom hecatombs of “Goyim” are — to quote another female war criminal of the same tribe, Madeleine I-am-an Episcopalian Albright — “worth it” to cut a path toward “Eretz Israel.”
Nevertheless, the approximate quote attributed to her, “I hate the Palestinians for making us kill their sons,” fits her and her ilk. As the Italians say, “Se non è vero, è ben trovato.” It encapsulates the cynicism and shameless travesty of their criminal acts. It continues today with very similar statements about the IDF oh, trying so hard to avoid civilian deaths if only Hamas would stop “hiding” among them.
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She said it.Aradnathio has it down brilliantly. The Jews ,and their Gentile worshipors must “kill you”, because the Jews have “no other choice”. Bottom line!
Great site, and I love the articles MG and the crew puts up about the reality of pretty much living under the yoke of Talmudic Law in this zionist colony of the former United States.
However, did you guys maybe make a mistake by having LBJ in the first photo? Regardless, what a low-life traitor for Zion, who of course betrayed America with his (and other traitorous, zionist stooges and puppets) cover-up of the Israhelli terrorist attack of the USS Liberty…
Anyway, in regards to that POS Yahoodi supremacist, war (and peace) criminal, I think that the writer of the article didn’t mention one of the more famous “words of wisdom” (sic) that the zionist supremacist, lying propagandist Meir uttered (and I’m paraphrasing):
>>>Give land back to the Palestinians? Well, there is no such thing as a Palestinian… So, who would we give it back to?<<<
I guess I'm wrong? Maybe one of the other psychopathic, gangster, terrorist, Israhelli war criminals said this…
Of course I don't know why this zionist war criminal apologist and propagandist writer was "kvetching" on and on and on about getting so-called "properly sourced quotes." After all, he and his brothers/sisters are always stretching the truth, using half truths, and straight-up lying through their "you know what" about many other things, so why the need for this guy to NOW be accurate?! I don't get it!
"This is a land without a people, for a people without a land…"
"We always wanted peace…"
"We don't control the media, Hollywood, Wall Street, the 'US' (sic) govt. and other western govts., the Universities, and many other things… That's an evil blood libel!"
"Watch out! The Muslims are about to take over the govt., the media, Hollywood, the financial system… and everything else! Oh my G*d!"
"And no I'm NOT lying, I'm being 1000% honest and truthful about the 'Islamics' taking over at any second… Not because I'm a trouble making, war-mongering, Yahoodi supremacist for the sake of Zion, and put Israhell first (and 2nd and 3rd)… I'm telling you all of these 'truths' because I love America and I'm an 'American' (sic) Patriot!"
"Yeah, of course… Bush and the neocons attacked Iraq ONLY because of oil! And that's why the 'US Imperialists' want to attack Iran… It has nothing to do with Yahoodi supremacism, Zion, or greater Israhell!"
"I, nor any other chosenites would NEVER, ever say or think anything bad or negative about Jesus (pbuh); we just have to expose Muhammad (pbuh), because we are for 'free speech!'"
"I am loyal to the United States… And I put America first!"
"We really, really love and respect free speech and the first amendment!"
"We did NOT start Judeo-Bol, uh, I mean 'Bolshevism' and vanquish millions in the process… That's another 'blood libel!'"
"Uhh, yeah… The 'Islamics' are 'controlling' Obomber, yeah, that's the ticket! And no, there are NO 'Chicagoan' Chosenite, duel citizen, zionist supremacists behind him, funding him, pulling the strings, etc., etc. That's just a 'rumor' ….likely started by evil Nazis and 'Islamics!'"
"Hollywood and film producers have made around 95,165 holocaust movies not because we absolutely and totally control Hollywood, no, but because they are so important, entertaining, and interesting to the goys!"
Etc., I mean I could be here all day, lol
Great comment, Zogistan. I’d only make a small correction regarding this:
“”I, nor any other chosenites would NEVER, ever say or think anything bad or negative about Jesus (pbuh); we just have to expose Muhammad (pbuh), because we are for ‘free speech!'”
ASren’t you familiar with Sarah Dilverman;s stand-up routine (“I’d f@##ing kill Jesus!”) or with Larry David’s Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where he pees on a a Jesus icon.
Of course I was being “facetious” about the Chosenites not having hate or disdain for Jesus son of Mary (pbuh)…
Maybe it wasn’t funny (and that’s my fault, lol), but that was basically the whole point of my post. I was trying to be humorous, of course. The point I was trying to make was, why would this one Joo writer in the article that was posted, really care about finding “accurate sources” for the various quotes that this murderous, lying, war criminal, Golda Meir (his “hero”) allegedly said? Our Chosenite friends are often lying about other things (whether using half-truths, white lies, or total, 100% lies and/or fabrications), so why would this one writer NOW care about journalistic ethics, integrity, or honestly?
I was attributing various quotes or statements (each statement literally had “quotation” marks) that they will likely say and/or have said in the past (I was using general paraphrasing).
And yes, I do know what that alleged “comedian” [sic] Sarah Silverman has said about Jesus (pbuh), and also what the other so-called “comedian” L. David did with the crucifix in one of his “comedic” [sic] episodes.
And of course, any J wise person obviously should know about the utterly despicable, evil things that the Rabbis say about Jesus and Mary (pbut) in their “Holy” Talmud, regardless of whether or not we heard about what their comedians may have said. That was the reason for the quote that I attributed to them about Jesus (pbuh) (i.e. concocting lies and using subterfuge when talking to us “Goys”). Obviously they want their dumbed down, ignorant, totally brainwashed Goy slaves (mostly Western/Christian ones these days) to fight and die in more wars for the sake of the criminal, zionist entity, and they will of course flat out lie about their (or at least their classical Rabbis’) true feelings and opinions of Christianity, and Jesus son of Mary (pbuh).
The fact that most (?) Christians are TOTALLY unaware and have NO idea what the classical Judaic opinions and feelings are regarding Jesus and his mother (pbut) (i.e. what is written in their Talmud) is really astounding, hard to believe, and almost leaves one speechless.
One day I even heard that POS, fanatical, ziocon, Israhell first (and 2nd and 3rd), joo supremacist, fake “American” [sic] patriot, Mike Weiner “Savage,” going on and on wildly “kvetching” about the fact that Obomber as a “Muslim” – as he was saying all Muslims as a matter of fact – really “hates” Jesus (pbuh)! Yes, that despicable, traitorous, zionist Israhelli agent, actually had the “chutzpah” to say this about Muslims (of course he was lying about Obomber too, as we all know he’s nothing but a zionist puppet and stooge). And no, that joo supremacist, Weiner, may be a serious POS, but he’s not exactly dumb (and he would have known that Muslims love and revere Jesus, believe in the Virgin Birth, call Jesus the Messiah, and believe in his second coming, etc.) so obviously he was flat out LYING. I was thinking, this POS, joo supremacist, Israhell First, faux “American” [sic] nationalist is actually “inciting” and propagandizing millions and millions of ignorant, unknowing, naive “Christians,” to of course really hate Muslims (even more so) with all of his false lies, but also getting them to be willing to again go to war for the sake of Zion and greater Israhell. Of course, it’s the Christians’ fault that they can be so easily lied to, misled, and bamboozled, by the same people whom in their own New Testament are called “the children of the Devil” by Jesus (pbuh)!