SYRIA: British and American Presence Directly Escalating Conflict Near Al-Tanf
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Jun 16, 2017
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Sabba I apologize, its obvious from the term I used “get Free Stuff” that it has touched a nerve.
You simply misunderstand what I meant, I didn’t do a very good job of explaining – let me give you a little of my background.
I am not white English, Derek is not my name, I use a pseudonym as you can’t be too careful, I am a Turk from Cyprus, my grandfather was a Hajji and both my parents are Muslims but became non practicing ones to fit in – you know “When in Rome?”
They came to the UK in the 1950’s to work because Great Britain still had a commonwealth (a nice word for an empire) and they didn’t get benefits and free housing people do today, other than child benefits and unemployment benefit but you had to work and so did everyone else.
I consider myself an Agnostic – I simply don’t know and I do not force the belief on anybody else, If you want to worship go ahead but that does not mean that certain religions sicken me – Judaism, Hinduism, Christian Zionism or as my Member of Parliament (MP) turned out not only to be a fully signed up member of the Conservative Friends of Israel, an “Evangelical Christian” in his own words with Judeo-Christian values and also a signed up member of The Henry Jackson Society to boot!
Anyway the shabbat Goy is out of a job … for now.
I agree with you 100% we destroyed their countries with our tax money and its only right that they come here I don’t hate them, far from it what are they to do?
Some are indeed Muslims but they are also human beings first, with human weaknesses and if I had a choice I would probably go to which ever country would make my life most comfortable.
You yourself in this article;
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2017/01/29/being-a-muslim-vs-being-islamic-in-the-west/
wrote the following;
But the wars which America/the West have been waging on behalf of Israel since 2001 are different: collectively they represent a war on Islam itself. And so it baffles the mind to see Muslims fleeing to the very same countries which destroyed their own homeland because of their religion.
That being said, what should Muslims do when living or entering a country which is known to be hostile to their religion?
Another quick look into Islamic history may provide us with an answer.
First of all, Muslims must not go to countries which are known to be hostile to their religion. On the contrary, they should leave such places rather than become powerless victims or tools or useful idiots of the jewish engineered clash of civilizations. This is precisely what Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did.
During his time, a group of Muslims first migrated to friendly Christian Abyssinia. The second wave of migration was from Mecca to Medina.
Your words not mine – the article was a bitter pill to swallow but you know what …. you are 100% right!
Some are unfortunately hot headed and stupid they are simple people, they cant help it, i am not that smart either,
WE do not have a Muslim owned press like the tribe to cover up their bad behavior so instead of thinking they act rashly – like when Britain First turn up, the local natives then get upset so taking the bait “hook line and sinker” becoming the “useful idiots” but they do have some power, they could have just ignored Britain First to begin with and that would have been the end of it.
They were parked illegally and the police would have dealt with them.
Britain First are not stupid a photo shopped spelling mistake does not make them stupid they are working efficiently for their masters.
There are also other examples.
In Brussels when the Gladio unfolded the Israelis placed their flag at the Brussels’ Place de la Bourse. and what did we see a Muslim (a Palestinian one at that) woman wearing a hijab removing the Flag and tearing it up
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3508394/Hijab-wearing-woman-caught-camera-TEARING-Israeli-flag-Brussels-memorial-dead.html
I mean how stupid IS that?
She could have been anybody to be fair but who cares the world saw the “religion of peace” yet again “outraged” playing right into the Jews hands – if she was indeed Muslim she wasn’t brave she was Stupid as the flag probably would have been ignored.
So you are right sabba why go to countries hostile to you and stand out like a sore thumb to be used?
You said;
The Muslims living in the West would do well to look at the Jewish and south-east Asian communities around them: they are the best integrated and at the same time, the least assimilated.
Integration is not the same as assimilation. Integration does not mean losing one’s religion. Far from it. Millions of Western people have converted to Islam while rejecting Arabic cultural traditions or, should I say, while keeping their own western cultural traditions, as far as these are compatible with Islam.
If religion means so much to you then don’t draw attention to yourself as “the other”
My parents integrated – I INTEGRATED and because I did I can sit back and see my dumber brothers and sisters (no fault of their own) who have come over in large numbers – thanks in part to those multicultural Jews like Barbara Specter and co – and they don’t want to integrate and probably will never causing that clash of civilizations diverting attention from the JEWS themselves.
I am not stupid you know “focusing on the mouse running by the wall skirting” I know its the six pointed star!
To quote you again;
“It is time that Muslims realize that Islam is being used as a weapon against them.
It is time that Muslims start acting strategically, taking all care to prevent being used like fuel or like useful idiots in a messianic clash of civilization.
It is time the Muslims wake up to their reality and stop accepting the role of pawns of their enemies, pawns being moved from one spot to another, from one country to another, in this gigantic messianic Jewish chessboard”
Sabba, 29JAN17.
Changed your mind since this article?
Its an inescapable fact and thats all i pointed out “some do come for the free stuff” granted not all, i live here, you don’t i see the beggars at the traffic lights with their NHS issue crutches and walking sticks, they have a roof over their heads, get benefits and on top of that they beg. White people see it and they say to me “bloody Muslims, comer over here and get everything” i have heard it a million times.
So it works they are being used pawns.
Migrants are not the problem they are a symptom of some thing bigger;
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Yes i read this on Sigurs site and thought how true – hes a nut but i thought this was good.
Respect to you sabba, respect to you Mark and all here you do a damn fine job.
Derek, no apology is needed as it was not directed against you. And if you felt that way, then it is I who apologize.
It was directed at most of my FB ‘friends’ who boast to be ‘jew-wise’ and who, in their overwhelming majority, do believe that all refugees only come to our countries to get free stuff.
I know that many of the so called refugees are no refugees at all: France and Germany have been flooded by black Africans, mostly Christians I might add, and Indians but, for some reasons, it is only the real refugees who are being targeted, those whose countries we have destroyed.
No one seems to complain or mind about the Black African and Indian invasion of Europe and I can not help but wonder why.
Why don’t these ‘jew-wise’ truthers do not talk about that? Why is it only those who come from a Muslim country (and I use this term very loosely) that are talked about?
As to Islam,I think you are mixing up ‘cultural Islam’ and the religion of Islam.
I converted to Islam 20 years ago (I will celebrate my 20th anniversary in July).
Islam can be lived and practiced everywhere on God’s vast earth. Everywhere.
I have lived in many countries in Europe (12 years in the UK…), and I never felt my religion as a burden, as an obstacle. There are 5 pillars, those do not change regardless of where one lives. The rest can and should be adjusted to the time, place, country one lives.
If one gives up his/her religion as soon as he/she moves to another country, then their religiosity is very questionable and it is likely their view of Islam was cultural and not spiritual. And that is wrong. A religion with no spirituality is an empty shell, What is the point of it really?
A believer, whatever his/her religion, will not give up his faith subject to where he/she lives.
Integration does not mean loosing one’s soul.
The joos are the best example for this.
I am a practicing Muslim and yet, if you would see me in the streets, you would not know this, your would not guess I am Muslim, you would think I am just like everybody else. I do not draw attention to me.
You see, for me, Islam is faith one chooses to follow or not.
It is NOT something that is inherited, it is not something cultural, it is not something that is transmitted by genes.
One is Muslim only if he submits to God. And only when one submits to God.
One is not Muslim because his parents, his ancestors were. One is not Muslim only because he comes from a country which was once Muslim.
Islam is NOT a cultural identity. It is a living faith. It is a permanent link, a permanent union with the Divine. There are many ways to reach God but I chose to follow the Last Testament, the Last Revelation, because I found it was the easiest and simplest path to the Sublime and also because no other religion had managed to answer my questions. Only Islam did.
What I am virulently against are those who impose their traditions, which, for most part, are anti-nomical with Islam.
What I am virulently against are those who label their most disgusting traditions as Islam thus dirtying my Faith and want the rest of the world to believe that this is Islam.
Many so called Muslims I have known attach much more importance to their traditions than to their religion. And when these 2 clash, rather than giving up their traditions, they simply label them as ‘Islam’, or they ditch Islam and stick to their traditions while still insisting that they are Muslims.
Anyhow, I apologize once again if you felt I was writing against you.
And thank you for your very kind words.
Warmest regards,
Sabba
Sorry sabba I should have been a little more tactful with MY choice of words, its a dirty game being played i know.
“We destroyed everything they had, it is therefore only fair that our tax money give them back some of we took from them, even though no amount of ‘free stuff’ will ever be enough to make up for the unspeakable crimes our countries, using our tax money, have been doing to them for at least the 150 years.”
It’s not our tax money.
‘We’ are as much victims of the grotesque foreign policies of Ziolandia and Britolandia as the Libyans. Our taxes belong to the central banking cartel which controls most of the world. Our governments, themselves, are in unservicable debt to the same central banking cartel. No Zestern govt is ‘sovereign’ in the correct meaning of that word.
Flooding the Zest with unassimilable and, understandably, hostile young men from Islamic and African nations is part of the program. The ‘order out of chaos’ Jews specialize in. We have every reason to be hostile to the program. Both the Zionazi bombings of the Middle East and Africa. AND the resulting ‘refugee’ crisis. AND the Judaic control of the monetary system whereby ALL money in circulation is issued as a debt to them.
We should be resisting all of the above vigorously.