US president reportedly tells French leader he can treat Netanyahu the same as he treats Palestinians. Comments came days before administration backed two-states for first time
ed note–as we like to say here from time to time, ‘by all means, all yuuz ‘Trump is owned by Djooz’ types…’
You all know the rest.
Now, onto the ‘meat’ of the matter.
1. If in fact this conversation did take place and Trump said these things to Macron, he did so knowing BEFOREHAND that the womanish, effeminate Macron would blab this to all the right persons in all the right places, meaning in effect that Trump knowingly and willingly used Macron as the bullhorn for delivering his message to Netanyahu.
Now, let’s consider the message here Trump is sending to Nutty Netty and to Israel in general via Macron–
‘I’ve given a lot to Netanyahu. I moved the embassy to Jerusalem… We give Israel $5 billion a year. I can be as tough with Netanyahu on the peace plan as I’ve been tough on the Palestinians’.
And just how has Trump been ‘tough’ with the Palestinians?
1. Taking away their aid money, just as Trump is now threatening–albeit in coded language–to do with Israel by referencing the ‘$5 billion’ number, and just as he has insinuated in other venues and at other times, including when he–as a candidate–talked about making Israel ‘pay back’ all the geld she has received from the US.
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2. Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which he could just as easily do by recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine as well, which no doubt he intends to do.
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3. The manner in which the US has put diplomatic pressure on the Palestinians in the UN by vetoing any and all resolutions brought forth condemning Israel for her feral and bloodthirsty behavior.
And now with ‘Darling Nikki’ gone, Trump may very well choose someone not quite as enamored with the Jewish state who will sit silently by and allow resolution after resolution to pass condemning the Jewish state for what she has been doing.
But, as we like to say here, by all means, all yuuz ‘Trump is owned by Djooz’ types, pay no mind whatsoever to glaringly important pieces such as this that shatter your comfortable little 1-dimension understanding of the complicated and oftentimes convoluted nature of 5 dimensional geo-politics and instead, spend the entirety of your day ‘liking’ the various memes posted on your FB page by your FB friends showing Trump and Netanyahu spit-swapping.
Times of Israel
US President Donald Trump has said he is willing to ‘be tough’ on Israel in peace negotiations and to mirror the administration’s combative stance toward the Palestinian Authority, according to an Israeli report Monday.
Such a move would mark a significant shift in the US approach to peace talks so far, which has seen a number of concessions to Israel and punitive measures against Ramallah, stoking Palestinian anger and a boycott of efforts to jump start peace talks.
According to a Channel 10 news report, which cited four Western diplomats with knowledge of the matter, Trump told French President Emmanuel Macron, during a recent meeting, that he was prepared to pressure Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept the administration’s long-gestating peace initiative, once it is unveiled, mirroring pressure already leveled against the Palestinians.
‘I’ve given a lot to Netanyahu. I moved the embassy to Jerusalem… We give Israel $5 billion a year. I can be tough with Netanyahu on the peace plan, just like I’ve been tough on the Palestinians,’ Trump reportedly told Macron on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in September.
It’s unclear where the $5 billion number comes from. The US currently gives Israel $3.8 billion annually in defense aid as part of a memorandum of understanding.
When Macron told the US leader that he was under the impression that Netanyahu preferred the status quo over making progress on a peace deal, Trump allegedly replied: ‘You know, Emmanuel, I’m very close to reaching that same conclusion.’
Responding to the report, a White House official told The Times of Israel that ‘the president believes that the prime minister is committed to pursuing a comprehensive and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians.’ Trump, the official added, ‘has faith in the prime minister’s efforts.’
The reported comments to Macron took place three days before Trump, during a meeting with Netanyahu at the UN, said he favors the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, seemingly signaling a reversal in the administration’s previous refusal to endorse the formula.
Trump also reportedly told Macron he had taken tough measures against the Palestinian Authority in recent months — cutting hundreds of millions of dollars in aid and closing the Palestinians’ Washington mission — in response to the Palestinians cutting ties to his administration after it recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
‘I was tough on the Palestinians because they wouldn’t talk to us, and that’s unacceptable,’ he reportedly said.
Trump worried Israeli officials when he said in August that Israel would pay ‘a higher price’ in any future talks with the Palestinians, due to his decision to recognize Jerusalem as the Jewish state’s capital.
‘It was a good thing to have done,’ Trump said during a campaign rally in West Virginia on August 21, referring to his recognition of Jerusalem and the relocation of the US Embassy to the capital, ‘because we took it off the table. Because every time there were peace talks, they never got past Jerusalem becoming the capital. So I said, let’s take it off the table. And you know what? In the negotiation, Israel will have to pay a higher price, because they won a very big thing.’
The Palestinians ‘will get something very good, because it’s their turn next. Let’s see what happens.’
US and Israeli officials later downplayed the remark, with senior US officials telling Channel 10 that ‘the US will not impose unacceptable conditions on Israel in its peace plan.’
US National Security Adviser John Bolton, in Israel at the time, told reporters there was no ‘quid pro quo’ involved in the US decisions regarding Jerusalem.
Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner said Monday that the status quo was ‘not acceptable’ and expressed hopes leaders on both sides would make concessions.
‘The situation is only getting worse. At some point, the leaders will have to take a bold step and make compromises. We hope to find leaderships that are ready to do so,’ Trump’s son-in-law told CNN during an interview at the channel’s ‘Citizen CNN’ conference.
The Trump administration has said in the past that neither Israelis nor Palestinians would be ‘fully pleased’ with its long-awaited Middle East peace plan, whose contents are one of the most guarded secrets in Washington.
Although the administration has been touting its plan for months, details of it have been scarce, and the Palestinians, who have long boycotted the Trump administration, have vowed not to cooperate with US efforts to implement it once it is announced.
Trump, who has called an Israeli-Palestinian accord the ‘ultimate deal,’ said during the meeting with Netanyahu last month that the peace plan would be rolled out within the next four months.
Re: ‘Darling Nikki’
Mike, always culturally on point. I hope her next grind is with a monkey and an street organ.
If Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Palestine’s capital as well as “israel’s” I’ll laugh my ass off! And I promise to sing Trump’s praises right here in this forum and to fully acknowledge that you guys in here might just know what your talking about after all. Okay…. so does our dear editor care to wager when this little trick up the Trumpster’s sleeve might happen? At least give us a dead line for it. Hmmmmmm? And if Trump does not win a second term no fair cry’n that he WOULD have done it if enough of us would have voted him in again but he lost so did not have time to pull that little rabbit out of his hat.
ed note–no, LB, I/we have no idea as to ‘when’ Trump may do do this. Unfortunately none of us are privy to the inner workings of any of the various machinations at work here. As it is with all things, we must make judgments based upon the open source information that is available to us, all of which at this point does indeed indicate that the Jews want Trump GONE, as in 2 years ago before he had even won, and based upon what we know about the Jews and how they operate, it would SEEM that the issue that has them the most vexed is Trump saying certain things indicting that indeed he plans upon forcing a peace deal that would in fact halt Israel from gobbling up the entirety of the Middle East, something which the Jews consider theirs by divine right.
I understand the emotionalism involved in all of this. Innocent people have been slaughtered en masse now for generations and due entirely to the various things which America has done to enable it. And no, as we have made clear many times, we don’t consider Trump a ‘savior’, but if indeed he truly intends to being about an end to all the suffering and bloodshed, than it is incumbent upon all of us who declare our support for the Palestinian people to at least NOT ASSIST his enemies in trying to impede him from doing what he seems intent upon doing. If he is driven from office and Israel is then free again to engage in her serial bloodbaths, then those–including the various ‘pro-Palestinian’ movements who added their voices in helping to bring him down and drive him out–can congratulate themselves for acting as willing functionaries in assisting the Jews in what it is they intended to do in preventing his ‘peace plan’.