kosher plagiarism

Cancer researchers around the world have known about MUC1 for a long time. Indeed, some of our leading scientists, Professor Joyce Taylor-Papadimitriou and Dr Joy Burchell, pioneered research into MUC1 throughout the 1980s and 90s, revealing how it is involved in cancer and how it might be targeted by the immune system.

But ImMucin is certainly not the first MUC1 vaccine to be developed, and it’s a long way behind some of the leaders in the field. For example, Stimuvax – a MUC1 vaccine that we helped to develop – is currently in large scale clinical trials involving hundreds of patients with various types of cancer, and there are others in the pipeline too.

As we point out in our comment which we gave to the Daily Telegraph, “There are several groups around the world investigating treatments that target MUC1, as it’s a very interesting target involved in several types of cancer. These are very early results that are yet to be fully published, so there’s a lot more work to be done to prove that this particular vaccine is safe and effective in cancer patients.”

OCDG: Yet another kosher con job shot down. This is a very common theme in jewish psychology… claiming to have invented/discovered everything under the sun. That’s not even the worst part… it’s the extortion that results from their egomaniacal supremacist worldview. “If you won’t do everything we say, we’ll take OUR inventions and deprive you Gentiles of them”. Never mind that God is the creator and originator of all things, who gives to ALL creation gifts of knowledge. Not only that, most if not ALL of their claims are pure and utter kosher lies. Frequent examples are they invented the microchip (intel was formed by American ex-semiconductor employees, which itself is a Gentile company, regardless of the kosher nepotism), the cellphone (which was invented by Motorola, an American Gentile corp but which sadly has been a zionist org for quite a while), Google Jewgle, search engines were around LONG before the 2 Russian jews were helped by the NSA and CIA to form Jewgle, Facebook, which if people can recall, was embroiled in controversy after two Gentiles accused Zuck’ of taking their concept (a kosher kriminal, what a surprise), etc etc.

In the best of times, there MAY have been some involvement by a jew, for example Jonas Salk but the way the jews tell it, he alone in a garage, developed it from beginning to end. That’s assuming you believe anything the jews claim anymore. So the most they can latch on to is that they stand on the shoulders of Gentiles…

This article amusingly is from 2012, where the reports of this same company/vaccine are now reaching a fever pitch again.

Their rabid self-love has reached a crescendo recently… I’ve read so many articles/comments by jews celebrating their “Divine” brilliance and intellect… I’ve lost quite a bit of weight, having to barf so frequently, so there’s an upside.

So to sum things up: the jews are full of dung.

If you hear a jew boasting about his/her superiority, tell them to shove it up their yarmulke!

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  1. ”This is a very common theme in Jewish psychology… claiming to have invented/discovered everything under the sun.”

    Yes, back in 2006, Christopher Bjerknes published a 2,800-page study titled “The Manufacture and Sale of St. Einstein,” which proved that Albert Einstein plagiarized the theory of relativity from previous sources who publishers (mainly Jewish) later erased from history of science. The Cult of Einstein had already been developed by 1932 when Einstein moved from Germany to the USA, and it gave Einstein full glory for the theory of relativity, allowing him to falsely claim that he invented it all by himself.

    Likewise, Jonas Salk lied when he claimed to have invented the polio vaccine. During a television interview with Edward R. Murrow, Salk was asked why he did not patent the vaccine. Salk’s response was, “Could you patent the sun?” Oh how magnanimous! How majestic! How Jewish! In reality, Salk could not patent it because the vaccine had already been invented and patented by others.

    Actually (and I will not delve into this here) no vaccine has EVER been conclusively proven to work. Diseases are eradicated not with vaccines, but with improvements in nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation. The poliovirus, for example, is transmitted by the standard fecal-oral and oral-oral routes. Clean up the environment, and the virus disappears.

    Most people think that vaccines are designed to “cure” a disease. This is absurd. The supposed idea behind a vaccine is to inject a person with a benign pathogen that mimics a harmful pathogen, so that the body can build up antibodies and other defenses against the harmful pathogen. But if this is true, then once you are sick with the harmful pathogen, it is useless to take a vaccine. Indeed, once you infected the poliovirus, for example, there is NO EFFECTIVE TREATMENT. (Even Salk admitted this.)

    Even then, as I said, vaccines don’t work in the first place.

    Actually there is no way to cure any viral disease. No way at all. All you can do is make the patient as strong as possible so that his own body can fight the virus. No pill or injectable liquid can fight a virus. They are sub-microscopic. (I am not talking about bacterial diseases.) Vaccines against viruses are useless.

    Military personnel and hospital staff are all required to have vaccinations. They get sick anyway. Vaccines are scams by pharmaceutical companies. Most are toxic. Some are deadly. Salk’s vaccine made him filthy rich, even though it was worse than useless. Whenever local governments mandated that children be given Salk’s vaccine in the 1950s, the number of reported cases of polio DOUBLED. Reason: Salk’s vaccine was made from supposedly dead polioviruses, but when they were injected into children, the vaccine gave them polio! Salk got away with it because of Jew-worship.

    Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institutes of Health during the 1950s were well aware that the Salk vaccine was causing polio (not curing it).They refused to vaccinate their own children. Health departments banned the inoculations.

    In 1976 Jonas Salk admitted the truth. He testified that his vaccine was the “principal if not sole cause” of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961.

    Despite this, Salk is admired today as a hero because of Jew-worship.

    I’ll cut if off here. The Internet is full of information that confirms what I say.

  2. @MJ(#3): Excellent article at that link you provided.

    ”There are more cases of vaccine-induced polio in Africa now than the naturally acquired form of the viral infection itself. The incidence of vaccine-induced disease among dogs is now rampant. Most of the people I know who got a flu shot at the local pharmacy report they got the flu.”

    Why then does the vaccine scam continue?

    MONEY.

    Pharmaceutical companies make millions from deadly vaccines. And if you question their lies and their greed, you are condemned by everyone as a “conspiracy theorist.”

    Another example is hydrogenated oils (aka trans-fats). They are cheaper to produce than regular oils, and they have longer shelf lives. This means more profits for corporations. Therefore the corporations launched massive advertising for their products, and they paid doctors and professors to claim that hydrogenated oils were much healthier than regular oils, or old fashioned lard. This was the exact opposite of the truth. Hydrogenated oils kill people. Only now does the medical community admit this.

    How about fluoride in the water? Don’t get me started on that one. That’s another deadly scam.

    Back to vaccinations…

    “Children under age 2 are not able to develop sufficient antibodies to develop immunity from vaccination. Despite this basic fact, the medical establishment insists upon administering a total of 19 shots, containing 24 vaccines, to infants on their 2, 4 and 6 month pediatric visits. Pediatricians admit that vaccination of young infants and toddlers represents “training the parent to bring their child in at all the pediatric wellness visits.”

    Training the parents to submit to the vaccine scam, so pharmaceutical companies can get rich.

    There is plenty more in that article you gave the link to. I urge everyone to read it.

  3. It may be insisted that the Jews’ usurpation attempts [in the context of the article] had begun as early as the Islamic Golden Age, and the time of the Abbasid Caliph Harun-ar-Rashid (8th Century AD) and the flourishing “House of Wisdom” in Baghdad. Islamic sciences recorded monumental achievements in every possible field of query. Their secret was the ‘Spirit of Altruistic Devotion’ and the ‘Holistic Approach to Life and Learning’ and placing ‘Divine Appraisal over Social Appraisal’ (all results of what Prophet Muhammad (saas) brought —– all applied with an inclusivity of and respect for earlier advancements/ endeavors of other civilizations (ancient Greek, Roman, Persian, Indian, Chinese, Egyptian, and Phoenician) that is so profound that it is yearningly recalled till today by British historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee. Even in his lifetime, the Prophet (saas) would encourage his companions to undertake educational excursions to other cultures/ civilizations (in the fields of philosophy and weaponry, to name just a few). Beginning with the Zanj rebellion of 871 and ending with the assault by the Qarmatians in 923 — Baghdad’s House of Wisdom was burned down to ashes.

    In contrast to this noble environment/ atmosphere, the Jews not only stole/ usurped it all, but they did so to the sole end of constructing a new world (beginning with the Renaissance) towards the final red carpet for their Meshihah —– a new world from which they will remove God, whilst knowing that every constituent element of this new world was from God in the first place.

    This Judaic/ Satanic trend peaked in the last 200 years, birthing the unprecedented modern Western civilization. Metaphysics and spirituality became the immediate antithesis of ‘modern edification and credibility’, and God and Science were set up as adversaries. [Even the most knave mythological hogwash was set up to claim that Nephilims/ aliens created man, God didn’t.] And in came ‘evolution’ [in usurpation of Creation] as the final brick that laid the foundation for “Judaic IQ is the Creator” paradigm.

    [In my university days (NJ), till the turn of the millennium, I witnessed how Masonically inclined social science professors still squirm at assigning any respectful credit to the Islamic Golden Age. Clearly, imperialism and Jewcademia are highly exclusivist, and has created a situation where most works that one would reference in their queries would likely be ascribed to some Jew or crypto Jew! Shudderingly enough, even online comments (yahoo, youtube, etc.) today frequently assert that the Quran was plagiarised from the Bible, and that Muslims are a useless burden on Western society — that’s how far the Jew has gone in usurpation!] …

    … And then we fast forward to the subject article, today … …

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    While medicine has always [historically] been mostly “curative” in its objective, the first primarily and comprehensively “Preventive, Natural and Nutritional” form of medicine would have to be ‘The Medicine of the Prophet Muhammad” (Tibb-e-Nabawi). … (The scientific sense and marvel behind the Prophet’s prescribed public health measures in Medinah were only appreciated after the discovery of the microscope, and the consequent evolution of disease-causation theories from ‘Miasma’ to ‘Micro-organisms’! … But the Jew will never admit and disclose this. He’d rather sell people more vaccines and synthetic vitamins/ pharmaceuticals that’d help people worship the Jew better!)

    One will be committing a crime as grievous as Holocaust-denial if one were to claim that Prophet Muhammad (saas) was the father of “Public Health and Preventive Medicine”! [Any such attempt at post-graduate level will engender laughs from Jewcademia-brainwashed pundits, and will receive cautious avoidance from most jellyfish Muslim academics.] .. In such an environment, Big Pharma has an empty goal post for dominance (by destroying most natural medicine with a variety of weapons including discrediting, banning-from-PubMed, and mockery).

    E.g., “Vaccination” itself is a sick mockery of the amazing science behind Homeopathy, a highly underrated natural medicine. As Konrad stated : “The supposed idea behind a vaccine is to inject a person with a benign pathogen that mimics a harmful pathogen, so that the body can build up antibodies and other defenses against the harmful pathogen.” … … This approximates the very way homeopathy triggers a natural adaptation from the body’s own biochemistry. However, homeopathy often involves ultra-diluted dosages of substances that will produce the same effect as the pathogen, but not the pathogen itself (least of all in lethal quantities as in a vaccine)! … As you’d expect, even Jewkipedia labels homeopathy as “quackery”! [Doesn’t that lovely term sounds very ‘authoritative’ and ‘British’!!]

    Vaccines may actually do to a human body’s natural regenerative/ recuperative capacities what fertilizers/ herbicides/ pesticides do to the soil’s capacities. [Chemical dependency is the operative term here.] And a lot [charitable] health interventions have increasingly started to look like Randomized-Controlled-Trials on the poor, and no charity. (Nigeria sued Pfizer and UN over meningitis, etc.) Let’s highlight just one:

    “The Ebola Breakout Coincided with UN Vaccine Campaigns” http://www.liberianobserver.com/commentaries/ebola-breakout-coincided-un-vaccine-campaigns

    AND to end this with a tribute to Prophetic Medicine —- it’s a known fact among even preventive medicine practitioners that SIMPLY a high daily dose of Vitamin C (>4000 mg) could both prevent and cure Ebola!

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    Two fascinating videos on natural/ alternative medicine and Faith Healing:

    … WATER (based on Dr. Masaru Emoto’s works):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33IiYb8htHk

    [What if this experiment was conducted with Qur’anic Verses/ Ruqyah?]

    … HIJAMA (based on Prophetic Medicine) :

    http://hijamacups.com/sunnah-points/

    [When modern medicine/ science renders us incapable of truly believing in Blessed Water or in Divine Prescriptions like Hijama, we no longer have any real Faith left!]

  4. I am so proud we have Konrad here! Pass his comments along please…on Jew worship: The Jews fostered the idea that they were ‘brilliant’,to coincide with their “Chosen People “,status. I assure you Jews are far from that. They are cunning,and expert at formula. Gain knowelege of their methods,and you can predict their next move ,with precison. They originate nothing,and only copy. Everything about them,is stolen,and rearranged by them. Their vile food,is merely a rehash of Eastern/Central European faire,and YIDDISH ,is a mismash of the same. They hate labor,and built NOTHING tangible. They lack spatial skills and imagination. This is why Jews pushed modern/minimal art. There where no Jew,great masters,as the beauty of human/nature form,is alien to them. They cannot be philosophers ,because that means “Love of truth”,and they have none;as their Talmudic minds,and GOD/SATAN system cannot find any balance. The Ashkanazi Jew rates high on ‘intelligence ‘,tests because genetically ,they inherited good ‘copying’,skills. The big Rabbis,who like to scribble,and the money handlers,would mate there families. They make good lawyers,because they inherited Talmudic debating skills,and understand manipulation,within the left/right realm. Pontus Pilat said:”What is truth” He was talking about the Jews. Einsten was a pure publicity creation. The Jews needed to push aside Tesla,Edisen,Planck,Heisenberg,and others from the public mind,and replace them,with one single character-and one who The result;typically dualist Jewish. The concentration of power in nature to DESTROY. Jews are ‘GUUUUD HIMSELF ! ” The manifestation of Yahweh on earth. Jews have the power to steal,or prevent inventions from reaching the light of day. As we speak:Germany an occcupied nation is not permitted to do independent research in many fields for instance. David Sarnoff,an overstuffed Jew;FDR commission a Brigader General in WW2 stole the patents to TV,including color.. two men commited suicide over this. He aquired the technology how? Spys who gained the confidence of niave Gentiles. Follow the Jews and you will loose.

  5. @Human Melody…without entering a debate on Muhammad and his medicine and title, don’t forget that Chinese were masters in that domain and that they have ancient books and medical compendiums dating from at least 1,250 BC and some even more ancient. Maybe he was considered the father of preventive medicine in his country at that time but this kind of medicine was existing elsewhere and strongly, way before his time.

    This is a point that annoys me… is that everybody talk about life in Middle-East as the navel of the world while there was the rest of the world also where life and civilisations were going on pretty strongly at the same time and even before. Why the fuss about that place while fogetting the rest of the world???? There was civilisations all over Europe, Asia and even Americas where people were building megalithic buildings, underground facilities, cultivating and raising animals, writing books, had “evolved” medicine and philosophies… and sadly doing wars also 🙁 … and I am not talking about the highly evolved civilisations that preceded the great catastrophes of 12,500 BC… so, give your head a shake people (not you who are reading but the rest who don’t know and maybe don’t care)… we are not the first, the jews and the arabs are not the first and we are all not the last… and we are all equal as creations of who-know-who and whatever human name we give him/her/it, an nobody is the master of this world or the chosen ones.

    As for the bible. Well… the bible itself, in her ancient testament, is plagiarizing more ancient texts even though some more recent writers added new gruesome writings through Constantine’s inspiration and some Conciles… if you compare names and events you will find striking similarities with way more ancient texts. So, nothing new under the sun… texts were copied from more ancient writings, modified to camouflage the plagia, names changed and adapted to the new context and countries. Texts were also transformed ~ conciles type ~ to please the religious leaders and power trip mentality of the time… in short… all the supposed sacred books of our time came from way older books, which most of them disapeared or are now hidden from us, as nobody in power wants us to know… as they will all loose their power, and their religions and control will collapse and crumble.

  6. @ Xplorexpress … You missed my point and context. I wasn’t eulogizing Arabs; I was eulogizing both the achievements and the academic attitude of the Islamic civilization (in relevance to the original article) —— a civilization that includes and acknowledges the Chinese (and their accomplishments), because the original and true Islam was truly egalitarian, and a truly egalitarian heart is one of the key indicators of a Muslim’s self-actualization in Islam.

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors62/mary-douglas-scientist-islam-is-in-principle-egalitarian-and-has.jpg

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors39/aly-khan-public-servant-quote-the-contribution-of-islam-to-history.jpg

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors49/arnold-j-toynbee-historian-the-extinction-of-race-consciousness-as.jpg

    Please review my earlier post again and you’ll see what I was trying to say. If you could sit on a time machine and go back to the time-frame I mentioned (The 8th century House of Wisdom in Baghdad), you will be shocked at how respectfully they documented and credited the accomplishments of earlier/ other civilizations (INCL. Chinese). In fact they’d even sit down and overwhelm you with how much they [selflessly] respect and acknowledge all other peoples and their works (which the 21st century Judaized mind just can’t anymore)! … In fact, till today, if you find a true Muslim in our times, he will defend, protect and appraise a Chinese Muslim far more than the current Chinese Premier would himself!

    Contrary to what the Jewcademia promulgates today, the Jews had little or no contribution to human history and progress (except usurpation, lying, exploitation, enslavement, depravity and murder). And the Jew will NEVER admit that ANY one/civilization is any better than him. … And since 610 AD, their destructive campaign has been most scathing against Islam … which continues TILL today (ref: past week in Paris). … And If I joined a discussion here at TUT on a relevant subject, and made some statements that intend to ‘revive’ some of what the Jew is constantly trying to delete and bury re: Islam — it doesn’t automatically imply that I’m underestimating other civilizations’ achievements!! [You thought that way because you do not understand Islam.]

    To illustrate, I pose some questions … Why are Jews okay with acknowledging the accomplishments of MAINLY Pagan civilizations but are absolutely venomous about doing the same for Islamic civilizations? … Even as recently as the turn of the millennium, the Jews assassinated a forerunner in alternative/ naturopathic medicine (a founding philanthropist and expert of Hamdard Labs)! How come the Jews don’t assassinate Chinese Medicine experts, who are still flourishing? … Why didn’t Charlie Hebdo make a dramatic fortune out of insulting a Chinese Prophet? …

    I often see people arguing in circles — “it’s actually the white man that the Jew fears” … “it’s actually the Christian that the Jew fears” … etc. Your point about equality should be addressed to these people. … [You are correct that a lot of Muslims carry egocentric/ supremacist views and attitudes. That’s the very success of Judaization, viz. even Muslims can develop an inner Jew/ Charlie. But the failure of some ‘Muslims’ does/ will not ever scratch the Perfection of ‘Islam’!] … The “Navel of the Earth” paradigm was not originally a “supremacist” postulate. It was a postulate that would bind together Christians and Muslims who are educated and capable enough to FULLY understand and Believe that we all came from Adam and Eve and [yes] the tectonic plates of the Earth were indeed folded up with the Arabian Peninsula as the centre. [If you study ley lines a bit, you’ll quickly find that Mecca is still the centre of the earth in many more ways than I could cover here.]

    I won’t have enough room to address [what you said about] the scriptures, here. It’s a learned discourse, but I am sure I will be able to be helpful to you. I’ve shared my thoughts [in segments, earlier] on that subject with some like-minded people here at TUT. The summary is well known: all scriptures were deviled by Satan (to create time-bombs of confusion and self-fulfilling prophecies) —except the Qur’an. Please review the Qur’an yourself and decipher for yourself why that is so!

    As an ending note, please consider this much : the venom and ENVY of the Jews (Specifically towards Muhammad (saas) and all that he brought/ started) is SO intense and satanic that it STILL forms the core of the Jewish motive behind virtually EVERYTHING the Jews did/ do! … It even broke and polarized the “Family of Humanity” into pieces:

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors17/henri-pirenne-historian-the-cause-of-the-break-with-the-tradition-of.jpg

  7. @Human Melody… maybe I was not that much out of context but bringing another dimension to your comment. When you write something, your intents are not necessarily infusing your words.

    I know what jews are and what zionist have done throughout history in the many nations they touched with their undesirable presence and you don’t need to post those gigantic images to make your point. I am not pro-jew… very far from it neither than pro-muslim. I am just pro-human and fight for freedom of speech, freedom of being a human… human rights, whatever religion, color, language, nationality or country.

    I know about history of our known world ~ maybe not all of it but a darn good part of it ~ and I read a big part of the Qu’ran… and I can’t see really the point you are making when you say “except the Qu’ran”. What I read in it is as violent as what is written in the Bible, the Talmud and the Torah. I surely don’t want to address the scriptures, as it will drive us nowhere. Until the day people will leave those barbaric books on the side to concentrate their thoughts on what the prophets and teachers teached us, there will be wars and suffering. God, the real one ~ whatever name we give him ~ is an energy of love and compassion and beauty, of serenity and Peace and spirituality and his manifestation will certainly not come in a world so full of hatred, wars, ugliness and perversion. Instead of fighting we must come together in Love and Peace otherwise… our planet will be on a path of self-destruction. I am out of it? Maybe… but it is certainly not by pulling the blanket on one side or the other, or living in the past by putting old history on the top of the foam that we will succeed to get peace. It will just stir an old rancid and mouldy bouillon. We can’t build the future by looking behind, to the past… we want change, we want new, we want evolution and we all have to concentrate on this. Now, the problem is to deal with the jews/israelites who live in the past, in a past that might not have existed at all as these stories they rely on, might just be a figment of the imagination of a coucou writer who fed too long on mouldy bread.

    As for the ley lines, I know very well about them as I am also a dowser who studied geology and pre-incaïc archaeology for a long time… and I really don’t see what is the geology of the Earth has to do with Islam. Living on a main ley line doesn’t make the people more special or exceptional.

    As for the “envy” of the jews toward Muhammad… well… I rather think that the jews just can’t stand anybody besides themselves near them. They want dominion over all goyims, their possessions, their lands. They consider themselves unique, infallible, the masters of the world and the “chosen ones” and they will genocide and exterminate in a barbaric way everybody who dare standing up and refuse their majesty, everybody who could be competition to their blazing brilliance. Islam/muslims were the nearest, they wanted their land as they only read the beginning of their book and closed their eyes on the part where their god said he was divorcing them so…

  8. I know about history of our known world ~ maybe not all of it but a darn good part of it ~ and I read a big part of the Qu’ran… and I can’t see really the point you are making when you say “except the Qu’ran”. What I read in it is as violent as what is written in the Bible, the Talmud and the Torah.

    There is a saying about the reading of the Quran… those with ill-intent see only the negative in return. The truth, what’s left of it, is still visible in the Earthly Bible and Torah, for those who wish to see it.

    Since you believe in God, do you think He would not instruct His creations? Send them knowledge of how to live? It is written in the very essence of the universe itself… but very few people can understand it at that level… that’s why in Islam, we acknowledge that God has sent 124k Prophets, from Adam to Muhammad to guide us, some came with books and some not. Don’t confuse corruption and human failings as attributes of God’s teachings.

    We’ve ALL got a long way to go. Mount Everest is the lowest point…

  9. @xplorexpress … First of all, regarding the heart of the matter, I couldn’t have expressed it better than the way OCDG has summed it up.

    Your deliberations made me realize how you were really perceiving things. Just to explain in that line … I am a reader/ contributor at TUT, and that also means I have no control over the site’s graphics, obviously. One of the things I was inspired by TUT posts to do (esp. Konrad) is to attach an illustration/ image to substantiate a message/ point. So, what readers like me do is to select an image from a site/ source and paste that link (which typically has .jpg or .png suffixes) here, that’s all. [I don’t know how to post images from my desktop, so this is the only way I know.] There is NO WAY to tell how that image will appear/ be displayed until after we post the comment. [You could try these steps yourself and see what I meant.] Thus, it just so happened that these images were bigger than usual. … Next, when I said that I couldn’t address a lot of your concerns here, for there won’t be room for ’em …. it was not in the sense of [today’s normative] typical egotistic big talk! I was simply speaking from my own self-consciousness of being at TUT and feeling the need to watch out for the decorum here… because some verbose discussions may be relevant for your query but not for the overall dedication and relevance of the original article or TUT in general. And your question about “why do we need God or Divine Guidance/ Books to liberate humanity” is something [interestingly, BOTH OCDG and I] have encountered on at least two more occasions earlier.

    I hope it’s clear now as to what was my intent. The intent you were picking up on or suspecting is called Humaza (allusions) in Arabic, avoiding which is one of the key necessities of Faith. [This point should also illustrate why Moral Absolutes mandated from God’s Guidance are quintessential.] If there was something wrong with my intent, as you seemed inclined to ‘place’ in the mind of any ‘reader’ … then I’d probably be [naturally, consequently] disenchanted by Divine Scriptures by now. Thanks to God’s Mercy, that is not the case.

    In simple terms … with entire nations and millions of people (esp. children) already annihilated by God-hating, Talmudic monsters … with the US and the West (yes, INCL. you) under the looming threat of similar annihilation from the same monsters … with enough being clarified daily by great thinkers/ Truthers on the subject of Scriptures … … … WHAT possible benefit or value could my answers to your questions —— regarding the need for God/ Scriptures (and the same old rhetoric of a falsely alleged violent God of the Qur’an, which only benefits OUR murderers) —— add to the commendable efforts of TUT towards much greater benefits for mankind?!

  10. @Human Melody “…because some verbose discussions may be relevant for your query but not for the overall dedication and relevance of the original article”… I never asked for verbose discussions, on the contrary… I told you it would drive us nowhere to discuss those things. I just gave you my simple insight about what was written in the article. The rest, was an answer to you subsequent comments.

    “… And your question about “why do we need God or Divine Guidance/ Books to liberate humanity”” Did I really ask you that? I formulated such question? Did I really talk about divine books to liberate humanity? Where did you read that?

    “…The intent you were picking up on or suspecting is called Humaza (allusion)… If there was something wrong with my intent, as you seemed inclined to ‘place’ in the mind of any ‘reader’” … Well, I think you really misread me… and I would like to know how you call “assumption” in your arabic language as I never ever say there was something “wrong” with your intent and I never thought about “placing” anything in the mind of the readers, as you strongly suggest. I gave you my point of view… which might had offend you as it is not a “religious” one. There is other point of views in the world and I think that on a site like here, we might have the right to say something without having our words twisted and assumptions put on ourselves. Or… am I wrong and only muslims-like comments are accepted? I never insulted you in my comments but clearly say that if things continue like this, with religions battling one against the other to have the best corner of the blanket and to be promoted the unique one… it will not solve the problem we are in now. Whatever religion…

    You certainly don’t solve the problem as, if I read well your last paragraph, you say exactly like all the others… that your version of god is the good one and the teaching of your Qu’ran is the only one that will save the world from destruction.

    TUT’s efforts to give information is great and I never ever commented badly about that, as far as I know.

    @OCDG I am not confusing corruption and human failings as attributes of God’s teachings and not seeing negative in the books… I see violence…. I see a god who order his flock of angels to go and kill thousands of babies, I see a god who ask his followers to kill, torture and behead every one who is not bowing in front of him only… I see narrowminded people who only see the sticker on peoples forehead and are blind at the goodness of heart and soul. I don’t think that a god has to talk about these violences in a book… teaching love and compassion is way more effective. A reader should not have to decipher and try to find supposidely hidden messages in a text.

    Your articles are good OCDG, but you are public and by this, have to admit that other people might have a different point of view and a different experience of life… and that this certainly not make them full of bad intents or crooked mind. That you diffuse information is great, but you have to realize that there is other people in the world besides muslims and judaics… and that they might have a point and be right… at least a little bit…

  11. It’s not that I disagree with your basic premise, just some clarification on some points. The only issue is that this isn’t the best form of communication for me… it’s hard for me to put into words what I want to express, doubly so in written form with long pauses between responses such as TUT comments.

    Just one little nugget… If God is as you say loving, kind, compassionate, merciful, why did He create carnivores? A wildebeest surely doesn’t feel the compassion and love of God when a group of lions rip it to shreds and devours it…

    What you deem as “violence” is your preconceived ideas… that is why when you read the Quran, that’s what you get out of it.

    Separation of holy and evil is one of the basic tenets, not only of “religion” but of life itself. Boundaries and limits are there and everywhere for our benefit. God demands, encourages, commends every effort to be made to solves issues by diplomatic means and only using physical actions (I object to the use of the world “violence”, as I define it differently than others) as an absolute last resort.

    Just check out how many rules there are in combat… you are not allowed to kill or harm non-combatants (women, children, elderly), you may not steal from them, you may not harass them, you must still perform your prayers daily, even if it may result in death, and on and on… things that would seem utterly contradictory to western views about Islam.

    I don’t know where you got the idea that I don’t realize there are differing opinions and/or that I object to them. Feel free to say whatever you want but also be aware that myself and others might address them.

    I may have a sensitivity to certain matters… maybe that’s what you’re sensing… I apologize if I’m being harsh but I’m also quite fed up with humankind. We didn’t become this way overnight… eons of abdicating responsibility brought us here and I’m just tired of it all. The devil didn’t make us do it and neither did the jews… this is common sense and says so explicitly in the Quran as well for the doubters. The aforementioned are the catalysts but every single human being is responsible for their actions…

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