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Ed note–Whenever the issue of the vastly disproportionate role that organized Jewish interests play in the involvement with/promotion of vice and immorality, it is often raised as a point of contention that ‘Judaism forbids such things’, as if such a statement alone suffices in ending the debate over what is basically an undebateable set of facts and figures.

The OpEd below, penned by the infamous ‘Rabbi to the stars’, Schmuley Boteach, is a case study as to how the Jewish mind works in such situations. On the one hand, he acknowledges that indeed his religion and his Torah outlaw this practice of homosexuality, but then turns right around in the same sentence and says he personally doesn’t condemn it.

Such is the Jewish mind, the Judaic ‘code of ethics’ and the moral mathematics that drive these people and formulate how they behave. There is nothing under the sun, whether it is homosexuality, pornography (including involving the use of children) abortion on demand or the annihilation of millions of ‘amelikites’ in Gaza,  Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran or wherever, that could not be justified by ‘great religious leaders’ such as Rabbi Schmooley, along with cohorts such as Ovadiah Yosef,  Dov Lior, Abe Foxman, Dr. Ruth, Sarah Silverman,  etc, etc, etc.

This is the leaven of the Pharisees about which Jesus warned the world, Judaism and Jewish thinking, which ‘renders the law of God to no effect’, and yet the one man who presumes to speak for Jesus Christ on earth, Pope Francis,  claims there is great ‘commonality’ between the teachings of Jesus and those of ‘Rabbi Schmooley’.

And please, those of you who will rush forward and say that all this moral relativism on the part of the Jews these days is all because they are not ‘real’ Jews, but rather Khazars who follow the Talmud instead of the Torah (Old Testament), please keep in mind–there were no Khazars on the morning of Crucifixion Friday, 33 AD, and no ‘Talmud’.

Furthermore, as the book of Jeremiah makes clear, the ‘Jewish problem’ goes waaaaaay back, long before any discussion of the Talmud and the Khazars began–

‘These people are fools…They do not know me. They are senseless children and have no understanding. They are skilled in evil and know not how to do good…Go up and down the streets of Jerusalem…Look around and search her squares…If you can find but one person who deals honestly and seeks the truth I will forgive this city…The prophets tell lies and the priests rule by their own authority and my people love it this way…From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain, prophet and priest alike, all practice deceit…The leaders dress the wound of these people as though it were not serious, and yet, are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all…They do not even know how to blush. Each pursues his own course like a horse charging into battle…How can you say ‘We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord?’ when the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?’

Times of Israel

This past week’s decision by the Supreme Court has triggered deep division in our nation. Some were jubilant in celebration at new rights granted to friends and family while others openly lamented the Court’s ruling and departure from the traditional definition of marriage.

My own reaction was complicated because I can empathize with each community. On the one hand, I am an Orthodox rabbi. The Bible is not vague in regards to homosexuality – it stands in contravention to the divine will. I understand the position of my Orthodox Jewish colleagues and Christian brothers who are pained to see the Court rule in a way that negates time-honored belief. As an Orthodox rabbi and Torah-observant Jew I could never come out and unconditionally support gay marriage.

On the other hand, I believe both in the separation of Church and State as well as the equality of all of God’s children. I have seen way too much homophobia in my life not to welcome a decision that affords gay men and women equal rights. I am incredibly proud of the State of Israel, in contradistinction to all other Middle East countries, especially the barbaric government of Iran, for the dignity and equality it accords its gay citizens.

For this reason, after the Supreme Court’s decision came out, I issued a statement arguing the decision was “welcome.” Many misread this as an endorsement of gay marriage. In reality, as I said in the statement, I don’t favor states recognizing any marriage. Marriage should be an exclusively religious institution and secular states should only be in the business of civil unions. Very simply, when it comes to government, I believe in civil unions for all and marriage for none.

I have long advocated this position and it elegantly allows for the coexistence of both beliefs: that governments should not be upending traditional, religious marriage and that governments should be treating all people as equals, according both straight and gay couples the same rights. Gay and straight men and women should be allowed to contract with a partner and earn the civil benefits that accrue in civil unions. If, in addition, they wish to be married, let them go to their rabbi, priest, or imam.

But even as the court embraced a different solution and legalized gay marriage, I viewed the Court’s decision as an opportunity to move past our national preoccupation with gay marriage to the exclusion of the glaring crisis confronting marriage in general. How can we be in hysterics over gay marriage when nearly 50 percent of straight marriages end in divorce? Do we straight people have any credibility in our argument that gay unions will destroy marriage and the family when one in two of our own marriages falls to pieces?

There are so many other values issues confronting America that have been neglected due to our obsession with gay marriage, from increasing materialism among the population, to teenage narcissism, meaninglessness, and depression, to growing male disrespect for women, evidenced in the unbelievable one-in-five campus rape statistic, to the absence of a year of national service that would create a more altruistic electorate.

So why have we, the religious, focused so exclusively on homosexuality as the foremost challenge to the future of our civilization?

Some justify this obsession with the Bible’s use of the word “abomination” to describe homosexuality, a practice which they consider deeply immoral. But the truth is that the Hebrew Bible uses the word “abomination” more than 100 times, including for bringing a blemished sacrifice on God’s altar and eating shellfish. So why have we established homosexuality as as the red line whose crossing implies complete social decay?

Then, there is the issue of morality. Yes, God gave Ten Commandments but notice they were split into two blocks of stone. One is for religious law and connotes laws that govern the relationship between God and man. Hence, in the first group are laws like the commandment to believe in God and the prohibition of worshipping idols or blaspheming. The second group captures moral law, laws that govern the relationship between man and his fellow man, like do not steal or commit adultery. These are laws that safeguard the rights of human beings and adjure individuals to respect one another and refrain infringing on each other’s rights or acting deceptively, as in adultery.

Homosexuality is firmly a religious, rather than a moral prohibition. It is akin to the laws of not desecrating the Sabbath or eating non-kosher food. Someone who eats a cheeseburger at McDonald’s, mixing milk and meat, is not immoral. They are contravening a Biblical commandment.

What I sense in my friends who see the Court’s decision as an unconscionable travesty is a misunderstanding of this distinction between moral law versus religious law. Prohibition against homosexuality is a religious law, much in the same way lighting a match on the Sabbath is a violation of the divine will.

While I may insist on societal adherence with moral laws as part of a broader social compact that binds us together, I cannot reasonably expect to impose my religious beliefs upon others, and certainly not in America, a nation built on religious freedom.

I realize that gay marriage is in a somewhat different category, involving as it does the question of social institutions upon which the world has long relied upon for stability. But what is better? To encourage gay men and women to be in enduring relationships based on fidelity and faithfulness or eternal singlehood bereft of commitment?

As an Orthodox rabbi, I cannot sanction gay marriage. I am not the author of the Torah and am therefore not at liberty to change its prescriptions or prohibitions. No law or court ruling will change my view on the immutability of the Torah. But I can understand the dignity and equal rights that gay men and woman seek. I can understand the desire for a partner to have their name printed on a death certificate – the right sought by Obergefell, the lead plaintiff in the Supreme Court case – which is the same simple dignity and recognition granted to those in traditional marriage.

For those who might call themselves “culture warriors” and want to fight for traditional marriage, I call on you to look inward and begin your fight on a new front: combatting the ridiculously high fifty percent divorce rate. Fight to keep families whole. Fight to prevent the dislocation of children and the pain of seeing parents fight in court. Fight to end the shameful epidemic of heterosexual marital decline that impacts more than half of new marriages today. That is where the battle ahead lies, and it is one that impacts us all.

For all those who are predicting that the legalization of gay marriage is the end of Western civilization and the traditional family, let’s face facts. Divorce and the easy culture of recreational sex, which makes a mockery of intimacy and commitment, poses a far greater threat to the future of the family than gay marriage. One affects about 5-7% of the population while the other affects far higher numbers.

It’s not gay marriage but heterosexual divorce which threatens a real end-of-days scenario for the American family. 

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  1. Kinda impressive how these radical suits can still take a
    “Stance” while they straddle the fence.
    Such is Judaism.
    Kinda sad that that the rest of the impartial and ambivalent
    world does not ask these lawyers to pick one side of it.
    As for the 50% divorce rate, I am sure the two income
    families that are barely getting by, children raised also in
    a liberal Judaic western educational system with Judaic
    television to babysit them and Judaic garbage food to nourish
    and comfort them, has little to do with it.
    At least I did not hear this formidable God fearing man
    mention any of these things.

  2. Disappointing Mark Glenn. I do not understand why you still can not see? If you truly wish to eliminate Jewry and Zionism, why do you continue to draw distinctions between groups, thereby alienating potential comrades?
    As Michael Collins Piper stated in one of his podcasts, (paraphrasing) “…for all of you out there that care about what other people do in their bedrooms…”. MCP made a crucial point with that statement. Why do you, really, care about sex as much as you do, if you claim to be a Christian? Jews are worldly, of this world. In their belief system Yahweh created this world. Jesus of Nazareth told the Jews that they are of their father the devil, Yahweh. Jesus was not of this world, yet most of you ‘Christians’ today are so concerned with every minor detail of what transpires here, on this world, why?
    Both Jesus and Mohammed stated that this world was indeed created by none other than Satan himself.
    What did Jesus and Mohammed have to say about homosexuality, Mark? That is right, absolutely nothing, because sexuality is of the flesh, and neither Jesus or Mohammed cared for the flesh, or this world, for that matter.
    “He who has come to know the world has found a corpse, and he who has found a corpse, the world is not worthy of him.” – Jesus of Nazareth
    “Love of the world is the root of all evil.” – Mohammed

    Judaism is a worldly religion. Jews are about hedonism and indulgence, which leads to degeneracy.
    Instead of pointing this fact out, that Judaism is hedonistic and worldly by nature, you have chosen to indulge by drawing distinctions between that which you view as appropriate indulgences, and that which is not, based upon nothing else but tradition.
    Both Jesus and Mohammed were radicals, not traditionalist’s. This begs the question, if you proclaim to follow either of the two’s path’s, why are you implementing traditional value, and using those traditional values to formulate your world view?
    You are playing the Jews game. You are dividing and alienating non-Jews, for nothing other than tradition, which is what Jewry is all about.
    Wake up, seriously!
    Ed note–for the life of me, I can’t even begin to grasp whatever point you are trying to get across here.
    The entire basis of my commentary on the article was to show how slick, slimy, and slippery the Jews–and especially their leadership–are. It wasn’t a long winded dissertation on the evils of the homo lifestyle but rather a dissection of Jewish doublemindedness. If this fact escaped your attention for whatever reason then I dont know what else to say because as far as I’m concerned it was as plain as day.
    As far as the rest, meaning my ‘alienation’ of others, as has been said often here, (and which our good friend Mike Piper made a point of often saying as well) we’re not here to make friends, but rather to influence and teach people.

  3. @#3numinoussun,
    Excellent little piece of Hasbara, dumbass.
    Your reference to Michael Collins Piper was
    especially offensive to all that have followed
    and understood his great works.
    So, despite your retarded comment, you must
    still be very self satisfied.

  4. Dear Sir,
    You did say, “..There is nothing under the sun, whether it is homosexuality, pornography (including involving the use of children) abortion on demand or the annihilation of millions of ‘amelikites’ in Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran or wherever, that could not be justified by ‘great religious leaders’ such as Rabbi Schmooley, along with cohorts such as Ovadiah Yosef, Dov Lior, Abe Foxman, Dr. Ruth, Sarah Silverman, etc, etc, etc…”
    You are indeed drawing lines of distinction, with that statement, are you not? Instead of diagnosing the true problem, which is hedonism in general, you are in fact stating that ‘pornography & homosexuality’ go hand in hand, as if homosexuality leads to pornography, and as your TUT comrade Trevor LeBonte loves to state, ‘homosexuality leads to pederasty’. That is absolutely ridiculous, and I say this as a 12 year celibate!
    You do indeed draw distinctions, thus dividing anti-Zionists!
    The ‘over’ sexual’ization of society in general is of Jewish origin, the sexuality people choose in such a society is a non-issue.
    Go to the root of the problem, don’t hack at the branches, have you not preached the same?
    “…we’re not here to make friends, but rather to influence and teach people…”
    Friends\comrades are Gods way of apologizing for family!
    “… but rather to influence and teach people..”. That’s what families do, big part of the problem.
    ed note–the fact that indeed Jews DO predominate in vice is neither fiction nor theory, nor that they use this as a weapon against us, and if you find this line of discussion disagreeable, then you fail to understand both the nature of the problem as well as the nature of the solution, which is full-spectrum awareness of the mechanics of how our enemy operates.
    What it sounds like to me (and I could be mistaken and if I am than I apologise preemptively) that you are homosexual yourself but not practicing? If so, than I congratulate you on your decision to not engage in this unnatural ad destructive behavior. But if in fact you are trying to say that the Jews don’t use people with your condition as a means of disrupting the natural order of society, than you are ‘completely off the reservation’ as we say here in America.

  5. The Jewish system is dualist…Left/Right. Traditional/Revolutionary. Thesis,Antithesis /Synthasis.
    Their terrible God,Yahweh, is Good/Evil/Good/God/Satan.
    Jews cast shadows,not illumination.
    They dodge,hide,maneuver,raise ideology, and highjack others.
    Idiot Christians s think the Jews are some,moral platform,. Every Sunday,they listen to this,sing this, and month this.
    Judaism is nothing of the sort.
    I had one crazy old Jamacian women ,literally go into shock,”What Gay Jews?!”.
    This is how the dualism works for the Jew.
    The women,a stupid black Republican, and known religious fanatic ,sees Jews as ‘Conservative’.
    Talk to a muddle headed liberal. “Jews a persecuted people are protectors of the progressive”.
    Some By bull ,TV Preacher watching types ‘cannot believe Jews don’t believe in Christ!’.
    Get it! ‘By deception thou shall do war”. The Jews motto. ” Make no graven image if me”.
    Judaism is self promoting,, racist ideology of pure materialistic,satanic selfish, survival,of a “God”,called Yahweh.
    But the Jews them self are his image. The world worships them.

  6. numinoussun. It seems to me that Mark Glen set a foundation when he said “great religious leaders” and “cohorts” (aka the ‘jew’) always twist and turn to justify pornography, homosexuality, etc. This is typical ‘jew’ consciousness as they establish themselves at both polarities and everywhere in between.
    He is talking about the mind of the ‘jew’ and how it rationalizes to the extent that they are never wrong; that they are beyond reproach.
    I don’t see where Mark Glen is creating a “distinction” nor do I see where he is saying that pornography and homosexuality go hand in hand.
    There are homos that like porno and there are ‘straight’ people that like porno. Some homos don’t and same ‘straight’ folks don’t. Viewing the naked form has been around for thousands of years. But viewing others actually having sex is certainly not my bag.
    Your comments about this material World I find a bit interesting. I am not religious but I do believe that we ( as humans in this experience ) are somewhat ‘trapped’ into this existence, but it is within all of us, we do have a capability that can be realized and developed to position us into a higher level. And I believe that his is the true root of alchemy and other such very ancient ways.
    I think that our past is much more mysterious than where we are going. How and why did we get into this damn existence and why do a few on this planet seem so damn intent on keeping us from reaching a higher us? It is true that we have joy, misery, love, hate, likes, dislikes, and so on in this existence, but it is also known that there is more to us humans than this ‘material’ World. And after all, ‘matter’ is in constant motion (vibration), and it has been defined by some as being basically loose fitting atoms with charged orbits around them. Matter can therefore be changed as in the case of a crystal glass being subjected to the right frequency. It shatters.
    Frequency gives form. It gives shape. Thought is frequency. Thought can elevate us or it can place us down into the ‘primitive’. If there were (are) individuals that walked (walk) on this planet that appear to have higher capabilities (gifts / miraculous powers) I believe that there being is at a higher frequency. The ‘jew’ on the other hand is in a state of a reptile (for lack of a better word). Very basic, very predatory…no higher thought pattern than to accumulate materials by all means necessary while trapped in this experience on Earth. This is why it is their ‘heaven’. They have nothing to look forward to. This is it for them. The have no conscience, no reflection on their past deeds in a way that induces them to think that perhaps they did do something wrong. Therefore without this type of reflexion, they cannot grow and mature. They are forever trapped like an immature 4 year old in a sandbox always taking from others and when one retaliates, they can only cry about that they see themselves as being wronged. The Earth is their sandbox.
    AS we can grow and mature thru experience, we can be rewarded by reaching higher levels of being, while they murder, plunder, and destroy.

  7. Numinous Sun: Prophet Muhammad never ever said that Satan (Iblis is his name is in Arabic) created the world. Never. You are misunderstanding greatly the hadeeth you quoted.
    Islam book is the Quran, the revealed Word of God (the one True God, Creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord of all the Worlds). Just read the very first chapter (7 verses): almost all is in it.
    What the Last Prophet said, known as hadeeth, are his word and not to be mistaken, confused with the Quran. Hadeeth are not infallible, many have been fabricated, many have been erased from the original corpus, mis-translated etc.
    On the other hand, the Quran can not be corrupted. His ‘Owner’ Himself is protecting it. And the arabic text we have now is the same the muslims had 1400 years ago. Translations are something else.
    Hadeeth just like the Quranic verse must never be studied in isolation.
    You will find all kind of statements in the hadeeth which are completely contradictory (words of a man, compiled by men: that’s normal).
    You will also find that many hadeeth of Muhammad may be in contradiction with the Quran: in that case, the Quran sits in judgement over the hadeeth.
    One is the Book of God, the other is a compilation of saying of the last Prophet (this is how you can often tell about the fabricated hadeeth).
    Prophet Muhammad never said that Iblis created anything: quite the contrary. Iblis is created, is a creature, so he is not to be feared: when we fear him, we must go back to His Creator, the One and sole Creator of everything.
    To understand Islam, one doesn’t not go to the hadeeths: one goes to the Source, i.e. the Book of God, His Last Testament.

  8. Also,no one cares about who does what in the bedroom. But it is them who want to us to know what they with what/whom.
    Sex is a private matter for any straight person but it is not for a homosexual: they are always bringing it forward, emphasize it at any opportunity, reminding anyone what it is that they do in the bedroom and with whom.
    Sex is a private matter, however, when sex is brought into the public sphere, when is sex becomes a political battle, when it is brought on the political agenda, then you take it like you take any other political topics.
    This gay marriage thing was never about who sleeps with whom. As far as I can see now, it seems to me that its goals is 3 folds:
    1) opening up the door of adoption to the gay community, who can now go and buy kids on sales in Africa and Asia (there are already many ‘baby factories’ in Africa which have been dismantled).
    2) Legalizing pedophilia/pederasty.
    3) Legalizing incest.And that one will be their highest victory.
    REDEMPTION THRU SINS.
    The gay marriage is not about who sleeps with whom but it is all about children, and only about the children.

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