I am not surprised… whoever becomes the leader of this country has to follow the interests of the system or “Empire”; if not he will be finished.
This government or system is like the Mafia organization and the leader has to follow the interests of the system if not he will be taken care; the same way they silenced John F. Kennedy….
The International community did not buy Obunga’s words any more. The whole world already know the warmongering aspirations of these two genocidal maniacs Israel/US.
I see Obama as a willing executioner for the Zionist cabal. And the whole Congress, the Senate and the Supreme Fraud are just the same.
But the balance of power is coming and these idiots are going to be scared and be looking for hiding.
Al: you summed up the reality of what the USA is very neatly.
What do ordinary Americans need to do?
I’m not asking to come up with a complete solution: but in plain terms, what do ordinary Americans need to do? Nobody else but ordinary Americans can cure the ills you so neatly described.
A good in-depth article.
The UN like its predecessor the ” League Of Nations was set up by the victors in both world wars…the second conclusive so they could keep control of the planet.
International Finance was those ” victors.”
However ,the planners did not foresee loosing control of the Soviet Union/Russia, and China.
Nor did they see the swift evaporation of the world British Empire /French geographically post war ; which led to the rise of independent third world,and non alighned states.
The US Presidents,as all Western leaders must obey who finances them,and their governments.
The enactment of the Rothschild’s US Federal Reserve, in 1913 tore up the US declaration of Independence from Britain .
They own ALL media ,and all politicians.
Everyone must be vetted ,or connected to the Establishment to be in the running.
At one times some resistence persisted,but with the spread of Finance Capital ( Jew), over Industrial Capital ( Gentile) ,this as become s trickle.
Obama is just an actor who must obey his lines….he can modify ,or maneuver within some contexts but his core of obedience to the Jews just remain.
He is the ” Left” side of the Talmudic Left/Right Matrix.
Alan:
You asked me what Americans should do in answer to their governments’ corruptions or crimes… The easiest and safest move is, if at least they stay away from elections and not to get emotional when they get close to any elections. They must learn that these elections don’t make any difference in future of their country and here they are only free to vote for two corrupt parties…
As long as people haven’t learned this simple lesson or haven’t learned that these parties and candidates are all the same & corrupt, then we should not have any hope on these brain-washed and emotional people… What do you think?
Al: I agree with everything you said. You described a situation for ordinary Americans that IS intolerable but which they continue to tolerate. It IS intolerable NOW. It WAS intolerable 50 years ago, with the JFK assassination, the Warren Commission, etc, it WAS intolerable 100 years ago with the establishment of the Fed, Wilson’s betrayal, etc.
There are no signs of hope in any of that.
So going back to the question I asked, I’m beginning to wonder whether there are ordinary Americans at all. There are natural ethnic divisions: European-Americans, African-Americans, Latino-Americans, etc, and last but not least the indigenous tribal Americans. I shudder at the thought of the history which brought about such a divided society.
If ordinary Americans are ever to call their governments to account, then they must work together for the common good of all. That requires the establishment of mutual trust among those multi-ethnic ordinary people.
That is an immense challenge.
I think that’s enough from me. I’m a European-Australian, and the same criticisms apply to my country as to yours – although less extremely I think.
I think your thoughts as an ordinary American are more important than mine. But I look forward to your comments, and hope others join in, because I think this issue is of fundamental importance.
I thank you for replying.
Alan:
Thank you for your comments… I think this case is not that complicated that you think. There is no question that many Americans are suffering but still vote & support this corrupt system and its leaders. The best answer is that they have pain, are suffering but don’t see the roots of their sufferings because the strong brainwashing system in this country. This is why they don’t see the roots of their country’s social & political problems and every election they are hoping that the next candidate will make a miracle for them but as you see, the same story repeats it again…
The difference of this country’s politics with 3rd world countries is that in those 3rd world countries people are under visible and direct control, but here unlike what many people think, we are under invisible or indirect control. If you read all the newspapers, watch all the TV stations & etc. I promise that you still won’t know why the US has been fighting in so many countries, almost all Americans don’t know that their country has about 1000 military bases around the world and why?!
In no classroom, no newspaper, no radio or TV ever tell people that US is an “Empire” and they are serving the interests of the Empire, or better to say interests of corporations at the expense of its brainwashed citizens… Here in this country people are under invisible control and they don’t know or see it… I think this kind of control is much more dangerous and harmful than visible or direct control… I think I wrote too much and must stop it here….
Al: no you haven’t written too much, and what you have written is clear and relevant to what’s wrong in your country and mine, and most nations. Your point that the US is an empire is excellent. Most nations are empires, even my nation, Australia, with a population of only 23 million is too large to serve and be accountable to all its people. Please write about what you would like for the lives of your children and your children’s children, and compare that with the lives you think they’ll actually have to live, unless things change for the better. Are you happy about your assessment? Would you be happy to share the benefits of being an American with Americans of different ethnicities? Do you think Americans of other ethnicities would be willing to share the benefits of being an American with you?
A dialogue along those lines would be extremely valuable. I think most people of different ethnicities would want similar things for their children and beyond, and enough is enough for any sane person. People of extreme wealth are driven insane by that wealth. I won’t explore the ramifications of that reality. But it’s crucial that ordinary people communicate with each other and work out – in good faith – goals that would be acceptable to all.
I don’t think that any person of good faith wants genocide of others.
Please don’t stop writing Al. Your voice is important. Other Americans: please join Al in such a dialogue.
@Alan: You asked a very important question. “Would you be happy to share the benefits of being an American with Americans of different ethnicity?” All your questions are important, but this particular one struck me. Something to think about…. 🙂
Please do so lasilencia and share the fruits of your thinking about what is a crucial issue for the future of your country and of civilization.
@Alan: It would be a very deep thinking. My parents were immigrants themselves. I am of a Latin origin born and raised in NY. Sometimes I feel divided between my cultural background and the American ‘way’. I raised my son the American ‘way’, but still kept my cultural values intact, but as we all know that when we have children, we tend to soften a bit. I don’t recognize America any more. It has changed so much from when I was growing up. For the better or worse? Not sure. What I want for my son? A different America. A more spiritual and coming together of all ethnic backgrounds. I grew up in NY with all types. It was beautiful. Why can’t it be like that again? 🙂
“It was beautiful.” Now it is significantly less beautiful. I take that to mean more ugly, or more vicious than it used to be. You want “a different America” for your son, and for your son’s children. Please describe the differences you wish for. Could it be even better than you experienced as a child in NY? Would all other ethnic groups also look back on the time you experienced as “beautiful” as also beautiful for them?
The “coming together of all ethnic backgrounds” does indeed sound beautiful. I think it is possible, but not under the status quo. Let me propose a premise: different ethnic groups can “come together” if, and only if, deep mutual trust is developed among the ordinary people of each group.
How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?
Thank you lasilencia, for engaging in discussing these fundamental issues.
@Alan: You hit the hammer right on the nail. “How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?”
Dante, Lasilencia and Alan. I am with you 100%. I am myself an immigrant from Latin America and when I came to this country 55 years ago America (US of America) was really America. People were completely different from what they are now. I also keep my ancestors values and I try to teach them to my children. I came to the US in the Viet Nam war. (massacre) against a very small country in South East Asia who had never done any thing to the US. This Mafia had just killed Kennedy and replace him for one of his own who did every thing he could for the Criminal Mafia. Israel had the 6 day war and with the help of the US they started to arm themselves to the teeth even with nuclear warheads. After that, there has been nothing but trouble in the Middle East and every where in the world due to the Criminal Judaic Mafia who control the US in every aspect of our society.
I am glad these powerful nations Iran, Syria, Russia, and Hezbollah (and may be China) had the courage to stand up to these diabolical monsters who are destroying the world.
@Isaac: Un abrazo mi hermano 🙂
It looks like that we are having a very nice & interesting discussion here… The question is the extreme wild behavior we see in the American Foreign Policy and how to solve it… Almost all American people know that something is wrong with their country but majority of people (even the educated ones) don’t know the source of this problem and every election they hope for a miracle…
The reason is the sophisticated and invisible control of this Capitalist system or Empire over everything. When you control all the news media and at the same time tell people that they have the best democratic system and the best of everything; then people would shut their mouth, believe everything and won’t complain. No classroom in the US ever teaches students of why their country fought in Vietnam, in Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other places… All they say is that they are fighting for democracy and against the bad guys or terrorists… and unfortunately majority of people believe it…
No so-called free newspaper, radio or TV ever tell people how much their country has been giving to Israel since 1950… They don’t tell people that their military budget is about 55 percent of the whole budget. This is why they have enough money for wars or helping puppet fascist countries around the world but not for education, health care and many other useful & necessary needs of American citizens… Here I don’t see any hope or change, as long as people are so careless or brainwashed…. What do you think?
@Al – You are absolutely correct. We have a problem. That’s the MSM that is owned by the very people who wish to continue to keep everyone clueless. The objective of the elite is to continue crushing the little people. Americans are not competitive mentally and spiritually, with the exception of sports. There is so much to discuss.
Thank you all for your comments. This is truly something to think about. A change needs to done and ‘selecting’ the next moron is not the answer. Drastic changes are truly needed. 🙂
Reply to lasilencia #13. I thought I’d sent a reply yesterday (Saturday) but it didn’t get sent. It’s already Sunday in Australia.
I think the hammer and nail is the wrong metaphor. The issue is not a nail. It’s a seed, and I (thankfully) didn’t hammer it, but planted it. Maybe we can water it and cultivate it and see how it grows. A hammered nail is done and dusted. A planted seed is quite different.
The mutual-trust-among-different-ethnic-groups plant is regarded as a weed by the status quo whose gardeners are under strict instructions to weed out this plant whenever they come across a little seedling struggling to emerge from the soil.
The prospect of ordinary people of different ethnicities getting together – in order to work towards building a society whose way of life is worth living for all Americans – is the status quo’s worst fear.
In that context, I repeat the question:
How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?
Your grandchildren’s future is at stake. Everyone’s grandchildren’s future depends on this issue being resolved.
Welcome aboard Isaac, and welcome back Al.
Isaac: re “these diabolical monsters who are destroying the world”: I think the “diabolical monsters” see themselves as builders of a “new world order” and they see ordinary gentiles as their livestock who must do as they’re told, and who must be culled when they get in the way of the “new world order” project. There seems little doubt that the “diabolical monsters” have a taste for cruelty.
Al: yes “every election they hope for a miracle”. Why? Why does a drowning man catch at a straw? A drowning man catches at a straw out of sheer terror and desperation. Do American voters vote, hoping for a miracle, also out of sheer terror and desperation? I think they do just that.
Question 1: What are American voters terrified of?
Question 2: And why are American voters desperate?
I think the same explanation may apply regarding why so many “believe” that their government is “fighting for democracy and against the bad guys or terrorists”.
Likewise for why “people are so careless or brainwashed”.
Fear paralyses people’s minds!
To regain the ability to think, one must first calm down – as best one can.
I am interested to read answers to Questions 1 and 2 above.
Thanks to each of you for participating.
@Alan – Well worded. We are all planting seeds. Good will seeds. 🙂
Hello to all friends of this round table:
Here I am going to answer to the last e-mail related to Alan… He wanted to know why Americans still keep voting even if they know their new candidate is not much different from the other ones…?!
Here there are several answers to this question:
(1) They are hoping that this new candidate is different and better from the previous ones and they believe in his words & future promises.
(2) They have no other options and have to catch this so called useless straw when they are drowning (even if it looks like a useless and repetitious straw).
(3) The strong power of brainwashing which affects on everybody and doesn’t let them to see other outside parties beyond Republicans & Democrats.
(4) Not to have access to any other free & independent party or sources to know the facts for real solutions.
(5) Invisible control over the news media, TV, radio and even class rooms & etc…
Now I am going to answer your other 2 questions:
(1) What are American voters terrified of?… No, they are not afraid of anything and believe in their freedom and democracy but they don’t see that invisible control around them. In general, based on their past experiences, they are disappointed and hopeless about the results of these elections but each election they get brainwashed and hope for different positive results or a better president which never happens.
(2) And why are American voters desperate?… Because of the past negative experiences… They are hoping for a change but their sub-continence tells them something else…
I think I wrote too much and must stop it here… looking forward to hear from you…
Al #21 wrote: “American voters … are not afraid of anything … (but) are disappointed and hopeless about the (election) results” time after time after time, but still they “believe in their freedom and democracy”.
That is pathological, Al. How come you can learn by experience but they can’t? You’re talking about ordinary people who are capable meeting the challenges of a normal life in all other respects except politics with regard to which they behave like morons incapable of thinking or learning from experience. They are not mental defectives. There has to be a cause! I’m asserting that cause to be fear.
And I think you imply the same thing. You did this by means of an inadvertent (but very amusing) typo: “They are hoping for a change but their sub-continence tells them something else”. “Sub-continence” conjures quite amusing images: Do they piss or shit in their pants? Of course you intended to type ‘sub-conscious’, and that fits in with the fear hypothesis. You are implying that their sub-conscious mind is telling them their political situation is hopeless. Please ponder that reality.
Have you ever experienced hopelessness? Assuming you have experienced hopelessness, was it not an extremely unpleasant feeling? So unpleasant is hopelessness or despair, that it induces many of us to deny reality. Some things to ponder there.
Now American politics? How does it operate? What happened to the last President who seriously challenged the status quo? Actually, I think that was Tricky Dick Nixon who was making moves towards circumventing The Fed. They got rid of him via the Watergate affair. The one before him was JFK. There have been several Presidents and would-be Presidents who have been assassinated over many years. Would FDR have beaten Huey Long? American politics is deadly violent!
Do you think that ordinary Americans are unaware of this horrid reality? Maybe some of them are consciously unaware, but deep down in their gizzards, their sub-conscious minds are aware. And you think so too.
I really do thank you for engaging in this discussion. It’s a good thing to respectfully disagree. I thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me, and I meant my disagreement with you to be also respectful and constructive.
We have only just begun exploring the issue of what ordinary Americans need to do so that different groups can develop mutual trust thereby making cooperation and unity possible for the first time. It will never happen unless ordinary people make it happen.
And that would be a great and wonderful thing because:
‘The people, united, will never be defeated’.
@ Alan: “American politics is deadly violent!” There is the answer. Police brutality, racism (I believe is being spread thru MSM), lack of education, homeless are at a record high, etc. It definitely is not lack of money because there is plenty of that to go around.
“Do you think that ordinary Americans are unaware of this horrid reality? Maybe some of them are consciously unaware, but deep down in their gizzards, their sub-conscious minds are aware. And you think so too.” The answer is Yes, ordinary Americans are totally unaware of this horrid reality. Sad but true. As long as there are a two party system and fraudulent voting, Americans are doomed to violent politics. We have lots of work to do before any real “change” is accomplished. 🙂
lasilencia #23: “We have lots of work to do before any real “change” is accomplished. :)”
Indeed. That is a huge topic all by itself.
Alan #22:
Yes, Americans are suffering and are afraid of their future but don’t know the source of those problems and at the same time they hope their president or the capitalist system could solve all the problems. Alan, when you are brainwashed, and believe & trust that you have the best system, then you would believe whatever your president, your politicians or your news media tell you… You were asked why do I see the social & political situation here different than other people?!… The answer is simple: It depends on person, education, personality, lack of bias & many other things.
Alan, if something bad happens to average American (losing his job, not to have health care, not to be able to go to college because of expensive tuition & etc). Majority of them think that it was God’s will or they were not lucky or was accident & etc… They never go beyond this closed & limited mentality and never criticize the system.
If American people are really disappointed of their government and the system, so why do they become so enthusiastic before each election and hope their next president will make a miracle for them? Because they only believe in the surface of this democracy and think that people are in control and can change everything. Many of them still believe in their news media and all the junk they read or listen from them.
So, it is very possible to be negative or suspicious to the surface or the picture as long as you don’t investigate or go to the depth of the system or causes of the problems…
I agree, Al #25, that brainwashed people “believe & trust that you have the best system, then you would believe whatever your president, your politicians or your news media tell you”.
Do you agree that brainwashed people don’t question their brainwashed beliefs?
I agree that brainwashed people rationalize their misfortunes and vicious aspects of their society, and as a consequence “never criticize the system”.
Furthermore, I take that as evidence that they are afraid of “the system”. Can you see why I would draw such an inference?
I seriously doubt your assertion that “American people” actually become “enthusiastic before each election”. Some maybe. A majority? No way. If that were true, then those enthusiastic people would all vote. Certainly the crowds at the Party Conventions perform as if everyone were wildly excited. Does anyone believe those performances accurately indicate the feelings of a majority of the “American people”? Those are just performances. I’ll grant you that some unthinking brainwashed viewers may be influenced by such performances, but that’s all.
The turnout at all Presidential elections from 1972 onwards has been less than 60%. More than 40% of Americans are so apathetic (= feel hopeless?) about American politics that they don’t even vote. That does not mean that those who do vote are all “enthusiastic”.
What are your hopes for the “American people”?
Hello again Alan #26:
Thank you for your response… I don’t think average American citizen is afraid of his/her government or system. When so many of them are so excited and positive around candidates like Donald Trump, Jeb Bush & other fascists, then I am not sure if they are hopeless, careless or extremely brainwashes and can’t find the real answer to this question. They don’t react when their military bombards a hospital in Afghanistan, but they never miss their church on Sundays…
So, what does it mean? For me they behave like a robot but at the same time they believe they have the best democracy… they just follow what their news media tells them. If their government had good relation with Russia, Iran and some other countries, then people would follow what their news media tells them to do or think.
No, they are not afraid but their view points is very limited and think they have the best system. They go to church on Sundays, they follow the football games & other sports but don’t care or react about their government’s foreign invasions or crimes which is related to American tax-money… They don’t care when hundreds of American people are hungry, homeless and even sleep on streets but never criticize when their country spends billions of dollars on military, foreign wars and even helping some fascist countries like Israel…
If they are disappointed, why so many of them still become so enthusiastic when we get closer to the next election? I know there are much less positive people who support the system now, but why this process is so slow and takes so much time to teach these robotic people? I know there are many positive and open-minded people here but I believe it is not enough and they must learn their lesson much faster… What do you thin?
Thanks Al. Let’s try to make some sense out of all this.
Am I correct in inferring that you personally know people like those you are describing?
So you know at least one person who gets excited about Presidential candidates, is indifferent about the US missile attack on an Afghani hospital killing numerous patients and medical staff, goes to church every Sunday, believes they have the best democracy, believes everything the mainstream media feeds them, couldn’t care less about the suffering of disadvantaged fellow Americans, and is not bothered by their country’s extravagant military spending?
Do you communicate with them? Do you ask them questions? What questions have you asked? And what answers have they given you?
Are they well off financially, and just plain selfish? Do you use the expression “I’m alright Jack”, meaning “I don’t give a stuff about anyone else.” in the USA?
Ask them “What do you mean by ‘democracy’?”
You didn’t answer the question I asked you last time: What are your hopes for the “American people”?
Maybe your answers to that question will make more sense than the behaviour of those seemingly senseless people you are describing.
Hello again Alan #28
Before answering your questions or comments, I would like to introduce myself… Originally I am from Greece but have been living here in US for the past 35 years. I don’t like to make fast judgement or saying something that I am not sure about it…
(1) At first, I would like to emphasize that, I know there are many well-educated and open-minded people in this country, but I believe it is not enough and in this case we need much more active and open-minded people…
(2) I have met and talked with many Americans (educated, middle class & low-educated) and my judgements are based on what majority of people here think or say about politics and everything else… and I assure you that I don’t make my judgements based on one person’s point of views.
(3) I agree that I haven’t met & talked with over 300 million people in this country but have talked with many people and have followed the local & international news and especially people’s reactions to what happens around the world and their view points in connection with their government’s foreign policies.
(4) I see how so easily they believe and trust their news media and their president…
(5) I see their silence, carelessness or ignorance in connection with their government’s military spending, the wars that they are involved with and many other things and at the same time they don’t react or protest about the extreme poverty of some people, expensive cost of education, lack of free health care (in comparison with some European countries)…
(6) Many of them believe to have the best democracy in the world but don’t see or feel this brainwashing or so-called invisible control in their country.
(7) Some of them get upset why their government is helping some poor & lazy people but never criticize the expensive wars and military spending and many other things.
(8) They go to church every Sunday but never care or complain why their government has been bombarding other countries and killing many innocent people around the world…
(9) They don’t react or get upset of why their government has enough money for wars, corruption, helping other corrupt governments but don’t have enough budget for those poor students who cannot afford to go to college, or those who cannot afford to pay for their health care or surgery and many other major things of life…
Here my question is; why are they silent? Is it because of lack of education, brainwashing, or just carelessness…?! Have a nice day
Al: you are unhappy that:
1. a majority of American people:
a. are passive and closed-minded;
b. believe and trust what they are told by their news media and their political leaders;
c. accept without question their government’s excessive spending on military action against foreign nations, while neglecting their duties at home to serve the needs of ordinary Americans; while:
2. many Americans who are doing OK under the status quo:
a. resent their government providing assistance to those who are suffering under the status quo, branding them as lazy and (implicitly) worthless; and whose
b. lack compassion bothers you, especially when you see them attending church every Sunday thereby hypocritically presenting themselves to be benevolent.
Then you ask me “why are they silent? Is it because of lack of education, brainwashing, or just carelessness…?!”
My answer: I agree with you that – generally speaking – American people:
1. are not merely poorly educated but miseducated;
2. are brainwashed by their miseducation in tandem with a media which misinforms, disinforms, lies to and deceives them, and subjects them to relentless strong influence towards selfishness;
3. are consequently uncaring about the feelings and well-being of others.
Have I adequately understood your concerns Al?
Alan… Yes, you were right but I wonder why such things happen in a country which claims to be number one democracy in the world?!…. Why majority of the well-educated and even the religious people in this country don’t react or criticize?!…
As I said before, I wouldn’t had been angry or surprised if I had seen such things in a 3rd world country but why here?!… Have a nice day.
Al: isn’t America itself a 3rd world country for poor Americans? Think education; think health and illness; think abject poverty, homelessness, insecurity. You would know better than I, the ways in which poor Americans are abused and neglected.
Are you religious Al? What standards of right and wrong, and good and bad do you hold dear?
What do you think about religions which tolerate and maybe even encourage their followers to be selfish and uncaring of others?
Although not religious myself, I have to say that I have found sincere religious people who practice the benevolent aspects of their religious beliefs, are the very best of people. In Australia – nominally a Christian country – those people have been Christians. It has to be said, they are unusual Christians. In a Muslim country, they would be unusual Muslims – although I suspect not as unusual as in most Christian countries. Back in the good-old-days, they would have been unusual Pagans.
You ask “Why majority of the well-educated and even the religious people in this country don’t react or criticize?!”
The most sensible answer to that question needs to resort to a problematic concept which can be – and has been – abused. You yourself raised it in an earlier comment – the sub-conscious mind. The most highly skilled brainwashers can induce sub-conscious fear. An outstanding example of that involves the evil genius Edward Bernays who, in order to increase the number of female smokers, exploited the sub-conscious fear of ordinary people in a sex-mad society, of being unattractive. Once you arouse people’s fear, you can get away with selling ideas which are utterly absurd. Bernays sold the absurd idea that cigarettes – for women, back in the day of the suffragettes – were “Torches of Freedom”. Utter nonsense. But the sale of cigarettes went up ever higher, with the movie screen lovers lighting their cigarettes simultaneously with great passion, etc.
Pathetic? You bet it’s pathetic. The same strategy and tactics would have swayed American public opinion away from not getting involved in Europe’s war, to baying for revenge against the terrible “Hun”. The media in general, and television especially, are terrible weapons of mass seduction. I think ordinary people need to be trained to defend themselves against such vicious infotainment warfare.
Al: I think you’re wrong about Americans not being afraid.
Alan #32:
Hello again… I think we talked and explained about everything and there is nothing new to mention again… Here I am going to very briefly answer and explain your previous comments.
(1) Yes, US is 3rd world country for some people especially for the poor who don’t have anything and especially for those who know nothing about their country, about its foreign policies and general knowledge about the world….
(2) I am a moderate religious person but I believe American religious leaders & churches are following the US policies & the system and keep their moth shut and don’t criticize the government’s social programs and political crimes because here both take care of each other… I am sure they know what is right or wrong but they shut their mouth for their own interests…
(3) Of course the real religious & faithful people could be considered the best and honest people (doesn’t matter if they are Christian, Muslim or Jewish).
(4) Why majority of educated or religious people don’t react? Because everybody has different personalities, different education levels and goals… Education or degree is not enough…
(5) I said Americans are not afraid because they don’t know the source of their problems or their real enemy or problem. My proof is that if you go to any college, any high school or even street corner and ask from different people about their social and political problems & etc… I promise you that more than 90% of people don’t know the source of problems and cannot analyze it…. These are the same people who are proud of their country’s democracy and being number one but are suffering because they don’t have health insurance, don’t know how to pay college tuition for themselves or their children and many other things but give you all positive answers… Have a nice day.
Peace be upon you Al.
Cheers
Alan
@ Alan and Al – Thank you for a very interesting conversation. Peace to both of you. 🙂
I am not surprised… whoever becomes the leader of this country has to follow the interests of the system or “Empire”; if not he will be finished.
This government or system is like the Mafia organization and the leader has to follow the interests of the system if not he will be taken care; the same way they silenced John F. Kennedy….
The International community did not buy Obunga’s words any more. The whole world already know the warmongering aspirations of these two genocidal maniacs Israel/US.
I see Obama as a willing executioner for the Zionist cabal. And the whole Congress, the Senate and the Supreme Fraud are just the same.
But the balance of power is coming and these idiots are going to be scared and be looking for hiding.
Al: you summed up the reality of what the USA is very neatly.
What do ordinary Americans need to do?
I’m not asking to come up with a complete solution: but in plain terms, what do ordinary Americans need to do? Nobody else but ordinary Americans can cure the ills you so neatly described.
A good in-depth article.
The UN like its predecessor the ” League Of Nations was set up by the victors in both world wars…the second conclusive so they could keep control of the planet.
International Finance was those ” victors.”
However ,the planners did not foresee loosing control of the Soviet Union/Russia, and China.
Nor did they see the swift evaporation of the world British Empire /French geographically post war ; which led to the rise of independent third world,and non alighned states.
The US Presidents,as all Western leaders must obey who finances them,and their governments.
The enactment of the Rothschild’s US Federal Reserve, in 1913 tore up the US declaration of Independence from Britain .
They own ALL media ,and all politicians.
Everyone must be vetted ,or connected to the Establishment to be in the running.
At one times some resistence persisted,but with the spread of Finance Capital ( Jew), over Industrial Capital ( Gentile) ,this as become s trickle.
Obama is just an actor who must obey his lines….he can modify ,or maneuver within some contexts but his core of obedience to the Jews just remain.
He is the ” Left” side of the Talmudic Left/Right Matrix.
Alan:
You asked me what Americans should do in answer to their governments’ corruptions or crimes… The easiest and safest move is, if at least they stay away from elections and not to get emotional when they get close to any elections. They must learn that these elections don’t make any difference in future of their country and here they are only free to vote for two corrupt parties…
As long as people haven’t learned this simple lesson or haven’t learned that these parties and candidates are all the same & corrupt, then we should not have any hope on these brain-washed and emotional people… What do you think?
Al: I agree with everything you said. You described a situation for ordinary Americans that IS intolerable but which they continue to tolerate. It IS intolerable NOW. It WAS intolerable 50 years ago, with the JFK assassination, the Warren Commission, etc, it WAS intolerable 100 years ago with the establishment of the Fed, Wilson’s betrayal, etc.
There are no signs of hope in any of that.
So going back to the question I asked, I’m beginning to wonder whether there are ordinary Americans at all. There are natural ethnic divisions: European-Americans, African-Americans, Latino-Americans, etc, and last but not least the indigenous tribal Americans. I shudder at the thought of the history which brought about such a divided society.
If ordinary Americans are ever to call their governments to account, then they must work together for the common good of all. That requires the establishment of mutual trust among those multi-ethnic ordinary people.
That is an immense challenge.
I think that’s enough from me. I’m a European-Australian, and the same criticisms apply to my country as to yours – although less extremely I think.
I think your thoughts as an ordinary American are more important than mine. But I look forward to your comments, and hope others join in, because I think this issue is of fundamental importance.
I thank you for replying.
Alan:
Thank you for your comments… I think this case is not that complicated that you think. There is no question that many Americans are suffering but still vote & support this corrupt system and its leaders. The best answer is that they have pain, are suffering but don’t see the roots of their sufferings because the strong brainwashing system in this country. This is why they don’t see the roots of their country’s social & political problems and every election they are hoping that the next candidate will make a miracle for them but as you see, the same story repeats it again…
The difference of this country’s politics with 3rd world countries is that in those 3rd world countries people are under visible and direct control, but here unlike what many people think, we are under invisible or indirect control. If you read all the newspapers, watch all the TV stations & etc. I promise that you still won’t know why the US has been fighting in so many countries, almost all Americans don’t know that their country has about 1000 military bases around the world and why?!
In no classroom, no newspaper, no radio or TV ever tell people that US is an “Empire” and they are serving the interests of the Empire, or better to say interests of corporations at the expense of its brainwashed citizens… Here in this country people are under invisible control and they don’t know or see it… I think this kind of control is much more dangerous and harmful than visible or direct control… I think I wrote too much and must stop it here….
Al: no you haven’t written too much, and what you have written is clear and relevant to what’s wrong in your country and mine, and most nations. Your point that the US is an empire is excellent. Most nations are empires, even my nation, Australia, with a population of only 23 million is too large to serve and be accountable to all its people. Please write about what you would like for the lives of your children and your children’s children, and compare that with the lives you think they’ll actually have to live, unless things change for the better. Are you happy about your assessment? Would you be happy to share the benefits of being an American with Americans of different ethnicities? Do you think Americans of other ethnicities would be willing to share the benefits of being an American with you?
A dialogue along those lines would be extremely valuable. I think most people of different ethnicities would want similar things for their children and beyond, and enough is enough for any sane person. People of extreme wealth are driven insane by that wealth. I won’t explore the ramifications of that reality. But it’s crucial that ordinary people communicate with each other and work out – in good faith – goals that would be acceptable to all.
I don’t think that any person of good faith wants genocide of others.
Please don’t stop writing Al. Your voice is important. Other Americans: please join Al in such a dialogue.
@Alan: You asked a very important question. “Would you be happy to share the benefits of being an American with Americans of different ethnicity?” All your questions are important, but this particular one struck me. Something to think about…. 🙂
Please do so lasilencia and share the fruits of your thinking about what is a crucial issue for the future of your country and of civilization.
@Alan: It would be a very deep thinking. My parents were immigrants themselves. I am of a Latin origin born and raised in NY. Sometimes I feel divided between my cultural background and the American ‘way’. I raised my son the American ‘way’, but still kept my cultural values intact, but as we all know that when we have children, we tend to soften a bit. I don’t recognize America any more. It has changed so much from when I was growing up. For the better or worse? Not sure. What I want for my son? A different America. A more spiritual and coming together of all ethnic backgrounds. I grew up in NY with all types. It was beautiful. Why can’t it be like that again? 🙂
“It was beautiful.” Now it is significantly less beautiful. I take that to mean more ugly, or more vicious than it used to be. You want “a different America” for your son, and for your son’s children. Please describe the differences you wish for. Could it be even better than you experienced as a child in NY? Would all other ethnic groups also look back on the time you experienced as “beautiful” as also beautiful for them?
The “coming together of all ethnic backgrounds” does indeed sound beautiful. I think it is possible, but not under the status quo. Let me propose a premise: different ethnic groups can “come together” if, and only if, deep mutual trust is developed among the ordinary people of each group.
How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?
Thank you lasilencia, for engaging in discussing these fundamental issues.
@Alan: You hit the hammer right on the nail. “How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?”
Dante, Lasilencia and Alan. I am with you 100%. I am myself an immigrant from Latin America and when I came to this country 55 years ago America (US of America) was really America. People were completely different from what they are now. I also keep my ancestors values and I try to teach them to my children. I came to the US in the Viet Nam war. (massacre) against a very small country in South East Asia who had never done any thing to the US. This Mafia had just killed Kennedy and replace him for one of his own who did every thing he could for the Criminal Mafia. Israel had the 6 day war and with the help of the US they started to arm themselves to the teeth even with nuclear warheads. After that, there has been nothing but trouble in the Middle East and every where in the world due to the Criminal Judaic Mafia who control the US in every aspect of our society.
I am glad these powerful nations Iran, Syria, Russia, and Hezbollah (and may be China) had the courage to stand up to these diabolical monsters who are destroying the world.
@Isaac: Un abrazo mi hermano 🙂
It looks like that we are having a very nice & interesting discussion here… The question is the extreme wild behavior we see in the American Foreign Policy and how to solve it… Almost all American people know that something is wrong with their country but majority of people (even the educated ones) don’t know the source of this problem and every election they hope for a miracle…
The reason is the sophisticated and invisible control of this Capitalist system or Empire over everything. When you control all the news media and at the same time tell people that they have the best democratic system and the best of everything; then people would shut their mouth, believe everything and won’t complain. No classroom in the US ever teaches students of why their country fought in Vietnam, in Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other places… All they say is that they are fighting for democracy and against the bad guys or terrorists… and unfortunately majority of people believe it…
No so-called free newspaper, radio or TV ever tell people how much their country has been giving to Israel since 1950… They don’t tell people that their military budget is about 55 percent of the whole budget. This is why they have enough money for wars or helping puppet fascist countries around the world but not for education, health care and many other useful & necessary needs of American citizens… Here I don’t see any hope or change, as long as people are so careless or brainwashed…. What do you think?
@Al – You are absolutely correct. We have a problem. That’s the MSM that is owned by the very people who wish to continue to keep everyone clueless. The objective of the elite is to continue crushing the little people. Americans are not competitive mentally and spiritually, with the exception of sports. There is so much to discuss.
Thank you all for your comments. This is truly something to think about. A change needs to done and ‘selecting’ the next moron is not the answer. Drastic changes are truly needed. 🙂
Reply to lasilencia #13. I thought I’d sent a reply yesterday (Saturday) but it didn’t get sent. It’s already Sunday in Australia.
I think the hammer and nail is the wrong metaphor. The issue is not a nail. It’s a seed, and I (thankfully) didn’t hammer it, but planted it. Maybe we can water it and cultivate it and see how it grows. A hammered nail is done and dusted. A planted seed is quite different.
The mutual-trust-among-different-ethnic-groups plant is regarded as a weed by the status quo whose gardeners are under strict instructions to weed out this plant whenever they come across a little seedling struggling to emerge from the soil.
The prospect of ordinary people of different ethnicities getting together – in order to work towards building a society whose way of life is worth living for all Americans – is the status quo’s worst fear.
In that context, I repeat the question:
How can deep mutual trust be developed among different ethnic groups?
Your grandchildren’s future is at stake. Everyone’s grandchildren’s future depends on this issue being resolved.
Welcome aboard Isaac, and welcome back Al.
Isaac: re “these diabolical monsters who are destroying the world”: I think the “diabolical monsters” see themselves as builders of a “new world order” and they see ordinary gentiles as their livestock who must do as they’re told, and who must be culled when they get in the way of the “new world order” project. There seems little doubt that the “diabolical monsters” have a taste for cruelty.
Al: yes “every election they hope for a miracle”. Why? Why does a drowning man catch at a straw? A drowning man catches at a straw out of sheer terror and desperation. Do American voters vote, hoping for a miracle, also out of sheer terror and desperation? I think they do just that.
Question 1: What are American voters terrified of?
Question 2: And why are American voters desperate?
I think the same explanation may apply regarding why so many “believe” that their government is “fighting for democracy and against the bad guys or terrorists”.
Likewise for why “people are so careless or brainwashed”.
Fear paralyses people’s minds!
To regain the ability to think, one must first calm down – as best one can.
I am interested to read answers to Questions 1 and 2 above.
Thanks to each of you for participating.
@Alan – Well worded. We are all planting seeds. Good will seeds. 🙂
Hello to all friends of this round table:
Here I am going to answer to the last e-mail related to Alan… He wanted to know why Americans still keep voting even if they know their new candidate is not much different from the other ones…?!
Here there are several answers to this question:
(1) They are hoping that this new candidate is different and better from the previous ones and they believe in his words & future promises.
(2) They have no other options and have to catch this so called useless straw when they are drowning (even if it looks like a useless and repetitious straw).
(3) The strong power of brainwashing which affects on everybody and doesn’t let them to see other outside parties beyond Republicans & Democrats.
(4) Not to have access to any other free & independent party or sources to know the facts for real solutions.
(5) Invisible control over the news media, TV, radio and even class rooms & etc…
Now I am going to answer your other 2 questions:
(1) What are American voters terrified of?… No, they are not afraid of anything and believe in their freedom and democracy but they don’t see that invisible control around them. In general, based on their past experiences, they are disappointed and hopeless about the results of these elections but each election they get brainwashed and hope for different positive results or a better president which never happens.
(2) And why are American voters desperate?… Because of the past negative experiences… They are hoping for a change but their sub-continence tells them something else…
I think I wrote too much and must stop it here… looking forward to hear from you…
Al #21 wrote: “American voters … are not afraid of anything … (but) are disappointed and hopeless about the (election) results” time after time after time, but still they “believe in their freedom and democracy”.
That is pathological, Al. How come you can learn by experience but they can’t? You’re talking about ordinary people who are capable meeting the challenges of a normal life in all other respects except politics with regard to which they behave like morons incapable of thinking or learning from experience. They are not mental defectives. There has to be a cause! I’m asserting that cause to be fear.
And I think you imply the same thing. You did this by means of an inadvertent (but very amusing) typo: “They are hoping for a change but their sub-continence tells them something else”. “Sub-continence” conjures quite amusing images: Do they piss or shit in their pants? Of course you intended to type ‘sub-conscious’, and that fits in with the fear hypothesis. You are implying that their sub-conscious mind is telling them their political situation is hopeless. Please ponder that reality.
Have you ever experienced hopelessness? Assuming you have experienced hopelessness, was it not an extremely unpleasant feeling? So unpleasant is hopelessness or despair, that it induces many of us to deny reality. Some things to ponder there.
Now American politics? How does it operate? What happened to the last President who seriously challenged the status quo? Actually, I think that was Tricky Dick Nixon who was making moves towards circumventing The Fed. They got rid of him via the Watergate affair. The one before him was JFK. There have been several Presidents and would-be Presidents who have been assassinated over many years. Would FDR have beaten Huey Long? American politics is deadly violent!
Do you think that ordinary Americans are unaware of this horrid reality? Maybe some of them are consciously unaware, but deep down in their gizzards, their sub-conscious minds are aware. And you think so too.
I really do thank you for engaging in this discussion. It’s a good thing to respectfully disagree. I thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me, and I meant my disagreement with you to be also respectful and constructive.
We have only just begun exploring the issue of what ordinary Americans need to do so that different groups can develop mutual trust thereby making cooperation and unity possible for the first time. It will never happen unless ordinary people make it happen.
And that would be a great and wonderful thing because:
‘The people, united, will never be defeated’.
@ Alan: “American politics is deadly violent!” There is the answer. Police brutality, racism (I believe is being spread thru MSM), lack of education, homeless are at a record high, etc. It definitely is not lack of money because there is plenty of that to go around.
“Do you think that ordinary Americans are unaware of this horrid reality? Maybe some of them are consciously unaware, but deep down in their gizzards, their sub-conscious minds are aware. And you think so too.” The answer is Yes, ordinary Americans are totally unaware of this horrid reality. Sad but true. As long as there are a two party system and fraudulent voting, Americans are doomed to violent politics. We have lots of work to do before any real “change” is accomplished. 🙂
lasilencia #23: “We have lots of work to do before any real “change” is accomplished. :)”
Indeed. That is a huge topic all by itself.
Alan #22:
Yes, Americans are suffering and are afraid of their future but don’t know the source of those problems and at the same time they hope their president or the capitalist system could solve all the problems. Alan, when you are brainwashed, and believe & trust that you have the best system, then you would believe whatever your president, your politicians or your news media tell you… You were asked why do I see the social & political situation here different than other people?!… The answer is simple: It depends on person, education, personality, lack of bias & many other things.
Alan, if something bad happens to average American (losing his job, not to have health care, not to be able to go to college because of expensive tuition & etc). Majority of them think that it was God’s will or they were not lucky or was accident & etc… They never go beyond this closed & limited mentality and never criticize the system.
If American people are really disappointed of their government and the system, so why do they become so enthusiastic before each election and hope their next president will make a miracle for them? Because they only believe in the surface of this democracy and think that people are in control and can change everything. Many of them still believe in their news media and all the junk they read or listen from them.
So, it is very possible to be negative or suspicious to the surface or the picture as long as you don’t investigate or go to the depth of the system or causes of the problems…
I agree, Al #25, that brainwashed people “believe & trust that you have the best system, then you would believe whatever your president, your politicians or your news media tell you”.
Do you agree that brainwashed people don’t question their brainwashed beliefs?
I agree that brainwashed people rationalize their misfortunes and vicious aspects of their society, and as a consequence “never criticize the system”.
Furthermore, I take that as evidence that they are afraid of “the system”. Can you see why I would draw such an inference?
I seriously doubt your assertion that “American people” actually become “enthusiastic before each election”. Some maybe. A majority? No way. If that were true, then those enthusiastic people would all vote. Certainly the crowds at the Party Conventions perform as if everyone were wildly excited. Does anyone believe those performances accurately indicate the feelings of a majority of the “American people”? Those are just performances. I’ll grant you that some unthinking brainwashed viewers may be influenced by such performances, but that’s all.
The turnout at all Presidential elections from 1972 onwards has been less than 60%. More than 40% of Americans are so apathetic (= feel hopeless?) about American politics that they don’t even vote. That does not mean that those who do vote are all “enthusiastic”.
What are your hopes for the “American people”?
Hello again Alan #26:
Thank you for your response… I don’t think average American citizen is afraid of his/her government or system. When so many of them are so excited and positive around candidates like Donald Trump, Jeb Bush & other fascists, then I am not sure if they are hopeless, careless or extremely brainwashes and can’t find the real answer to this question. They don’t react when their military bombards a hospital in Afghanistan, but they never miss their church on Sundays…
So, what does it mean? For me they behave like a robot but at the same time they believe they have the best democracy… they just follow what their news media tells them. If their government had good relation with Russia, Iran and some other countries, then people would follow what their news media tells them to do or think.
No, they are not afraid but their view points is very limited and think they have the best system. They go to church on Sundays, they follow the football games & other sports but don’t care or react about their government’s foreign invasions or crimes which is related to American tax-money… They don’t care when hundreds of American people are hungry, homeless and even sleep on streets but never criticize when their country spends billions of dollars on military, foreign wars and even helping some fascist countries like Israel…
If they are disappointed, why so many of them still become so enthusiastic when we get closer to the next election? I know there are much less positive people who support the system now, but why this process is so slow and takes so much time to teach these robotic people? I know there are many positive and open-minded people here but I believe it is not enough and they must learn their lesson much faster… What do you thin?
Thanks Al. Let’s try to make some sense out of all this.
Am I correct in inferring that you personally know people like those you are describing?
So you know at least one person who gets excited about Presidential candidates, is indifferent about the US missile attack on an Afghani hospital killing numerous patients and medical staff, goes to church every Sunday, believes they have the best democracy, believes everything the mainstream media feeds them, couldn’t care less about the suffering of disadvantaged fellow Americans, and is not bothered by their country’s extravagant military spending?
Do you communicate with them? Do you ask them questions? What questions have you asked? And what answers have they given you?
Are they well off financially, and just plain selfish? Do you use the expression “I’m alright Jack”, meaning “I don’t give a stuff about anyone else.” in the USA?
Ask them “What do you mean by ‘democracy’?”
You didn’t answer the question I asked you last time: What are your hopes for the “American people”?
Maybe your answers to that question will make more sense than the behaviour of those seemingly senseless people you are describing.
Hello again Alan #28
Before answering your questions or comments, I would like to introduce myself… Originally I am from Greece but have been living here in US for the past 35 years. I don’t like to make fast judgement or saying something that I am not sure about it…
(1) At first, I would like to emphasize that, I know there are many well-educated and open-minded people in this country, but I believe it is not enough and in this case we need much more active and open-minded people…
(2) I have met and talked with many Americans (educated, middle class & low-educated) and my judgements are based on what majority of people here think or say about politics and everything else… and I assure you that I don’t make my judgements based on one person’s point of views.
(3) I agree that I haven’t met & talked with over 300 million people in this country but have talked with many people and have followed the local & international news and especially people’s reactions to what happens around the world and their view points in connection with their government’s foreign policies.
(4) I see how so easily they believe and trust their news media and their president…
(5) I see their silence, carelessness or ignorance in connection with their government’s military spending, the wars that they are involved with and many other things and at the same time they don’t react or protest about the extreme poverty of some people, expensive cost of education, lack of free health care (in comparison with some European countries)…
(6) Many of them believe to have the best democracy in the world but don’t see or feel this brainwashing or so-called invisible control in their country.
(7) Some of them get upset why their government is helping some poor & lazy people but never criticize the expensive wars and military spending and many other things.
(8) They go to church every Sunday but never care or complain why their government has been bombarding other countries and killing many innocent people around the world…
(9) They don’t react or get upset of why their government has enough money for wars, corruption, helping other corrupt governments but don’t have enough budget for those poor students who cannot afford to go to college, or those who cannot afford to pay for their health care or surgery and many other major things of life…
Here my question is; why are they silent? Is it because of lack of education, brainwashing, or just carelessness…?! Have a nice day
Al: you are unhappy that:
1. a majority of American people:
a. are passive and closed-minded;
b. believe and trust what they are told by their news media and their political leaders;
c. accept without question their government’s excessive spending on military action against foreign nations, while neglecting their duties at home to serve the needs of ordinary Americans; while:
2. many Americans who are doing OK under the status quo:
a. resent their government providing assistance to those who are suffering under the status quo, branding them as lazy and (implicitly) worthless; and whose
b. lack compassion bothers you, especially when you see them attending church every Sunday thereby hypocritically presenting themselves to be benevolent.
Then you ask me “why are they silent? Is it because of lack of education, brainwashing, or just carelessness…?!”
My answer: I agree with you that – generally speaking – American people:
1. are not merely poorly educated but miseducated;
2. are brainwashed by their miseducation in tandem with a media which misinforms, disinforms, lies to and deceives them, and subjects them to relentless strong influence towards selfishness;
3. are consequently uncaring about the feelings and well-being of others.
Have I adequately understood your concerns Al?
Alan… Yes, you were right but I wonder why such things happen in a country which claims to be number one democracy in the world?!…. Why majority of the well-educated and even the religious people in this country don’t react or criticize?!…
As I said before, I wouldn’t had been angry or surprised if I had seen such things in a 3rd world country but why here?!… Have a nice day.
Al: isn’t America itself a 3rd world country for poor Americans? Think education; think health and illness; think abject poverty, homelessness, insecurity. You would know better than I, the ways in which poor Americans are abused and neglected.
Are you religious Al? What standards of right and wrong, and good and bad do you hold dear?
What do you think about religions which tolerate and maybe even encourage their followers to be selfish and uncaring of others?
Although not religious myself, I have to say that I have found sincere religious people who practice the benevolent aspects of their religious beliefs, are the very best of people. In Australia – nominally a Christian country – those people have been Christians. It has to be said, they are unusual Christians. In a Muslim country, they would be unusual Muslims – although I suspect not as unusual as in most Christian countries. Back in the good-old-days, they would have been unusual Pagans.
You ask “Why majority of the well-educated and even the religious people in this country don’t react or criticize?!”
The most sensible answer to that question needs to resort to a problematic concept which can be – and has been – abused. You yourself raised it in an earlier comment – the sub-conscious mind. The most highly skilled brainwashers can induce sub-conscious fear. An outstanding example of that involves the evil genius Edward Bernays who, in order to increase the number of female smokers, exploited the sub-conscious fear of ordinary people in a sex-mad society, of being unattractive. Once you arouse people’s fear, you can get away with selling ideas which are utterly absurd. Bernays sold the absurd idea that cigarettes – for women, back in the day of the suffragettes – were “Torches of Freedom”. Utter nonsense. But the sale of cigarettes went up ever higher, with the movie screen lovers lighting their cigarettes simultaneously with great passion, etc.
Pathetic? You bet it’s pathetic. The same strategy and tactics would have swayed American public opinion away from not getting involved in Europe’s war, to baying for revenge against the terrible “Hun”. The media in general, and television especially, are terrible weapons of mass seduction. I think ordinary people need to be trained to defend themselves against such vicious infotainment warfare.
Al: I think you’re wrong about Americans not being afraid.
Alan #32:
Hello again… I think we talked and explained about everything and there is nothing new to mention again… Here I am going to very briefly answer and explain your previous comments.
(1) Yes, US is 3rd world country for some people especially for the poor who don’t have anything and especially for those who know nothing about their country, about its foreign policies and general knowledge about the world….
(2) I am a moderate religious person but I believe American religious leaders & churches are following the US policies & the system and keep their moth shut and don’t criticize the government’s social programs and political crimes because here both take care of each other… I am sure they know what is right or wrong but they shut their mouth for their own interests…
(3) Of course the real religious & faithful people could be considered the best and honest people (doesn’t matter if they are Christian, Muslim or Jewish).
(4) Why majority of educated or religious people don’t react? Because everybody has different personalities, different education levels and goals… Education or degree is not enough…
(5) I said Americans are not afraid because they don’t know the source of their problems or their real enemy or problem. My proof is that if you go to any college, any high school or even street corner and ask from different people about their social and political problems & etc… I promise you that more than 90% of people don’t know the source of problems and cannot analyze it…. These are the same people who are proud of their country’s democracy and being number one but are suffering because they don’t have health insurance, don’t know how to pay college tuition for themselves or their children and many other things but give you all positive answers… Have a nice day.
Peace be upon you Al.
Cheers
Alan
@ Alan and Al – Thank you for a very interesting conversation. Peace to both of you. 🙂