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Yes, for years this LIE, that is Israe-LIE (identity thieves), has threatened the West if she doesn’t get what she wants. Allowing this heathen anti-christ people to become nuclear armed shows clearly the ignorance and insanity of the “Christian” West, who has been taught the ‘jew’ is the people of the Book. Think we will reap what we’ve sown ?? Jesus Christ said the thief comes to kill, steal, and destroy. Do you think the Edomite-jews fit the category ??
ed note–the people who killed Jesus Christ were not ‘Edomite Jews’ They were the real deal, following their Torah as handed down by Moses and which instructed them to kill any ‘dreamer of dreams’ who resided amongst them.
Get off this ridiculous Christian Identity nonsense. As someone with an Anglo-Saxon/northern European background, you are NOT descendants of semites from the Levant as your ridiculous theory of white chosenness postulates. If you did your research you would know that the entire Christian Identity/British Israelism theory was the brainchild of a jew named Ben Menasche who used it as the pretext for the jews being readmitted into England after they had been expelled by Edward III.
Didn’t this Jesus Christ in the book say that he came to not do away with the Law but to uphold it, and that his Father sent him?
ed note–yes, he did say that, but never referred to his father as ‘yahweh’ or any of the other violent hebrew gods that the jews worshipped. He also substituted the 613 laws of moses into only 2–loving God and loving your fellow man, so to try to make the case that Jesus was a supporter of/follower of all the Mosaic bs is an error.
The problem of Judaism is that it is mainly a physical religion .Most of the laws of it involve a total control of your physical behaviour in relation to non-jews -every area of life is covered ,every aspect of it is racist in both religion and ethnicity. This “religion ” has taken over and controls the Western World . Where is the mass of jews saying- we sympathise with you or we will pray for you where is the tenderness -the love or care for others not Jewish ?? So to me it is not a spiritual religion in the real sense but a declaration of war against humanity . Where are the great Jewish givers to the non -jew poor-sick-old ??? .No, like Shylock they sit in a darkened room counting their shekels and yet they say =we are the chosen people this is why people inside themselves (call it intuition ) know there is something far wrong with them . How can god possibly say =they are doing my work ?? Only if the same god is the god of vengeance and destruction who tells the jews to wipe out all nations that oppose them and they take that to mean as still applying in the year 2015. So wanting WW3 nuke war comes naturally to them -they just dont give a Damn for us and thats the truth !
Mark, was Jesus a jew? When the traitor judas ratted him out he received 30 silver pieces but the rate for a wanted jewish man was 50 pieces and 40 for a jewish women and 30 for non jews. Was he Galatian?
Apparently Pilate thought he was a Jew. Matthew 27:37; “And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”
In “Jesus in the Talmud” by Peter Schafer it tells us Yeshu ( Talmudic acronym for “Yimach Shmo V’Zichro” — May his name and memory be obliterated) Ben Pandera’s real father was a Palestinian Gentile serving in the Roman army – and his mother a whore. So not a Jew.
Miss Vickie, the sign over Jesus’ head read, “Jesus the Nazarene(One that has dedicated his life to God is the definition for Nazarene/ There was no township of Nazareth until after His crucifixion and resurrection), King of the Judeans”.
So the sign read,
Jesus the Nazarene
King of the Judeans
@ #4 by Ostmann
The contention of Christian belief in the Bible story is that Jesus was the prophesied messiah of the Jews, so he must have been a Jew.
No Gentile religion before Christianity prophesies any messiah from the OT, Torah or Talmud, or any messiah from within the Jewish/Israelite tradition who would eventually become a messiah of the Gentiles also.
The messiah was not prophesied by Jewish/Israelite religion to eventually lead a universal Gentile religion, or indeed even an all inclusive amalgam of Jews/Israelites and Gentiles in some new vastly expanded definition of ‘chosen’ people.
If Jesus were not a Jew, then he most certainly could never have been the messiah prophesied in OT religion, and we can be sure that the Jews themselves would never have accepted any Gentile as their messiah. Rather, they would accept only a Jew as their messiah.
As such a supposedly Gentile Jesus could not actually be the messiah prophesied by the Jews for their religion, then it follows that a Gentile Jesus is therefore not valid to be the prophesied Jewish messiah whom the Christians assert would eventually become the Christian messiah, whilst no Jewish Torah or Talmud prophecy states that the Jewish messiah will become any Christian messiah for the benefit of the Gentiles. The messiah of the Jews will be (he has not come yet, as Jesus never fulfilled all the prophecies for that time that would have to have been fulfilled in order for him to have been the valid messiah), for the Jews/Israelites alone, not the Gentile peoples.
Whether or not the messiah can be accepted in scripture as actually needing to come twice, we can see from the following OT texts that one of these, if indeed any more comings of any messiah are required more than that, must indeed be Jewish.
If we even accept that a second messianic coming is required, then surely, with the second coming at least being definitely stipulated as having to be Jewish/ Israelite/Chosen bloodline, then surely, the first messianic coming also would be Jewish/Israelite/Chosen bloodline.
The following texts demonstrate how the messiah must come from the line of King David, and thus be Jewish; from http://www.ldolphin.org/messiah.html
“The Messiah, to be the genuine Messiah, must therefore resemble King David — He must not only be a royal descendant from David’s house; like David, He must also born in Bethlehem, and like the direct physical son of David, Solomon, He must be a Person who will establish peace and justice over the whole earth, beginning in the city of Jerusalem.
“In the Tanach (the Hebrew Scriptures), the Person of the Messiah is so identified with King David that He is sometimes even named “David” as in Ezekiel 37:25:
“Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever.
“But like David He will also be a Man of war – a Lion of Judah who will fight for His people Israel, trampling in the winepress of His wrath the nations that have come to swallow up Israel. As Zechariah prophesies:
“Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, from east to west, making a very large valley; half of the mountain shall move toward the north and half of it toward the south. Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, for the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. It shall come to pass in that day that there will be no light; the lights will diminish. It shall be one day which is known to the Lord – neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen that it will be light. And in that day it shall be that living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, half of them toward the eastern sea and half of them toward the western sea; in both summer and winter it shall occur. And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be — “the Lord is one,” and His name one. (Zechariah 14:3-9)
“So the Messiah is not just One Who is brought as ‘a Lamb to the slaughter’ (Isaiah 53:7); He will also will be like a roaring Lion — “the Lion of Judah.”
“There are equally many passages in the Scriptures which describe clearly and forcefully this aspect of the coming Messiah. He will in the end days go out to war for His people:
“The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up His zeal like a man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies. (Isaiah 42:13)
“Who is this who comes from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah, this One who is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of His strength? — “I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.” Why is Your apparel red, and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress? “I have trodden the winepress alone, and from the peoples no one was with Me. For I have trodden them in My anger, and trampled them in My fury; Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments, and I have stained all My robes. For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come. I looked, but there was no one to help, and I wondered that there was no one to uphold; therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me; and My own fury, it sustained Me. I have trodden down the peoples in My anger, made them drunk in My fury, and brought down their strength to the earth.” (Isaiah 63:1-6)
“However He will also be the spiritual guide to His people, a prophet like Moses — a High Priest and Prophet combined, like Moses and Aaron in One, who will guide His people in all matters of faith and Torah, eclipsing the need for a chief Rabbi or a Chief Rabbinate in His days!”
Thank you Mark for refutting the utter insanity of “Christian Identity”. Jews are Jews. For a European,or any other peoples ,to think they are not,or to identify with the ‘real ones’,is the most insane kof cons. This nonsense took off among the hidius Puritans,of the Anglo-Saxon societies,shifting the Gentie world into worshipping Yahweh,or Jews,and not their own universal deities,Hellenistic world views,and negates the New Covenant of Christ. “Identity”,which is Zio-Christianity,on Steroids is utterly illogical,culturally blind,and lacks even simple common sense. So according to CI,the way,we beat theJews is to deny they are,’authentic,’and claim gentiles should adopt,the tribal,hate ‘God’,Yahweh !
All of this Boils down to the worship of the Jew God,Yahweh. He made it very clear,his hatred of the whole world except his Chosen People theJews….worship them,or perish. War,after Jew vwar,has been fought to make the Jews supreme. Cultures distorted,economies enslaved,Christianity altered,and the entire gentile world view subject to Yahweh/Jews! Thou shalt have no other God(s),but Yahweh. That means everything must go,but him…….obey,or YOU must be annihilated! See;BOLSHEVISM FROM MOSES TO LENIN,Eckhart. YAWHEW GOD OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER & SYNAGOGUE OF SATURN ,You Tube. THE SAMPSON OPTION ,Hersh.
I must add,and it is this simple. The “Messiah”,of the Jews is not a universal savior,but the manifestation of Yahweh,the Jews exclusive diety. He will reign for them alone ! Gentiles to be enslaved. His symbol is 666. The six sided star,or Shield of Saturn ! “What is above is below”.The Jews have done all they can,to cover this,but their flag cannot be denied.
“Jesus affirmed the Mosaic Law even to the keeping of the “least of these commandments” (Mat. 5:17-19). He blasted the Pharisees for giving their own ideas precedence over God’s commands:
“Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying… `He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say…” Mat. 15:3-4
“For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” [Jesus] said to them,
“All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother; and ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say…” Mark 7:8-11
Matthew 5:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
“Christians are not under the Law because they have died to the Law. They have died with Christ, and those who have died are not bound by the Law.
“for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, neither is there violation,” (Rom. 4:15).
“knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, that our body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin,” (Rom. 6:6).
“Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,” (Rom. 6:8).
“Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God,” (Rom. 7:4).
“But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter,” (Rom. 7:6).
“So, Christians have died with Christ. They are identified with Christ so closely that it can be said that when Christ died, they died with him. Since Christians have died with him, they are no longer under the Law because he who has died is freed from the Law (Rom. 7:6). That is why Christians are not obligated to keep the Law of God in order to be saved from God’s righteous judgment. Christians are saved from that requirement and penalty.”
Surely, those who have not yet surrendered to Jesus, and thus have not yet died with him, and then passed beyond death and beyond the applicability of the material law that relates only to this material world and those remaining in it, are still under the law, which Jesus states still exists in it’s original mosaic completeness till the end of the Earth. Maybe that Mosaic law is only intended to apply to the people from whom it originated, but that people certainly mean it to affect other peoples as well, and in a manner that is not the same as for their own people, such as where some crimes do not merit a death penalty for Jews, but the same crime brings a death penalty only for Gentiles, such as will apply when the 1991 US Noahide Laws are fully effected.
The Jesus of the Bible and his ‘God’, whoever he really is, is still far too violent to be the real God. The real God can use ‘violence’ in this temporal world of dreamlike maya, to occasionally dissolve this entire material universe for example, or to defeat demonic armies for example as in the Battle of Kurukshetra, which He acts out repeatedly as in a play, on each material planet in the cosmos, with all demonic participants who ‘die’ then being liberated and waking back up in the true world, the eternal spiritual world, but such violence is always educative ultimately in the path of the Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam, which ultimately restores all souls back to full spiritual consciousness of the spiritual world, rejecting none, but when Jesus, and whoever his ‘God’ is, threaten eternal existence cast out from God for those who ‘sin’, and intend to send those ‘sinners’ to some place of eternal punishment in literal burning fire, the Lord God Krishna who provided the Bhagavad Gita surely cannot accept that threat as having come from God, or that ‘God’ of Jesus as really being God, as He Himself does not actually reject even one single soul for all eternity, and most especially He never tortures even a single soul for all eternity, so the God of Jesus is not God at all.
Good morning MG. I will reply later if that is OK. I have to meet some folks soon.
I am not an argumentative type of person actually. I do find ancient cultures and the paths that humans have taken as extremely interesting. Its a wide topic and includes many subjects and religion is one of those subjects.
Personally, and at the heart of my views, I believe that religions…organized religions…are in part, a means to try to explain a great (and somewhat unexplainable as of yet) force or energy. Alchemy, the mystery schools, occultism, and the likes have been painted with a black and forbidden brush but there is more to it than that.
Bibles have a long list of Jesuses. in the many bibles. Barabbas was also a Jesus. Bar means ‘son of, and Abbas means father. Son of the Father. It relates back to the 2 Pillars. One is Jachin and the other pillar is Boaz. These 2 pillars will support Shalom, universal peace…being held in place by the 2 pillars.
These are prominent in Freemasonic literature and artwork as well.
If this Jesus Christ condemned the Laws of Moses or even made some of those Laws obsolete, Christ still recognizes them as having been valid in the history of the so called Jews. In other words, they (the Laws of Moses) were needed and required but now, since the arrival of the Jewish Messiah, they are no longer needed.
I would disagree that there is not a connection with Jesus Christ and that of Adam & Eve story in a Garden of Eden, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, etc. It is all connected just as the NT is connected to the OT. It is the same so called ‘Father’.
This same ‘Father’ created a Garden, put in two creatures called Adam and Eve, they disobeyed the Father, and the World has been cursed ever since with most of the blame being out upon the female gender. This same Father moved Abram / Abraham and this Father is attached to all the events of the OT and the NT.
The Talmud differs of that of the Torah, which in turn the Kabbalah also has different views and projections. In part, this all adds to further divisions the same way Democrat & Republican parties can keep divisions, and lead to even further divisions amongst these two parties. Even Jews are picking and choosing what specific Jewish sect they want to belong too. There is even a Jews For Jesus divide. Jews can be and are just as ignorant as non Jews.
“King David”, as it is written, was a homosexual. He was infatuated and in love with another man. Later, when he became infatuated with a married woman, he set it up so that the woman’s husband would be killed in battle so that he could then marry her. There is nothing holy or even ethically unique about this so called bloodline.
These are apocalyptic beliefs where in the “end times” there will be a great battle, The forces of evil against the forces of good. All those that are defined as being evil will be slaughtered by the ‘good’. And the Messiah with his army of angelic beings will take part in this slaughter. Who is correct? Muslims? Jews? Christians?……Hindus…Buddhists? It al comes down, in these apocalyptic religions, that battle lines will obviously be drawn in an epic event where one is either with them or against them.
And what about this ‘heaven’? Where is it? On the other side of the Universe, another planet, another dimension, on Earth? If so many people are dying so they can reach this heaven, I think it is important to know a little bit about it. If there is another ‘God’ in a bible other that the one continuously mentioned known as YHWH, Abba, Yahovah, Lord, or Father, where specifically in a bible does it demonstrate that another ‘God’ existed other than the one that created the Adam & Eve / Garden of Eden bloodline?
I should add that Paul / Saul of the New Testament is a Jew. He went about preaching long after Christ and Barabbas was said to have lived. It was also at a time in history when the ‘chosen ones’ were losing territory and a foothold in their so called ‘promised land’ in Canaan. They needed to bring others (now Jews) into their sect, but still not giving them ‘chosen one’ status. They did not have to be physically circumcised but could be circumcised by the ‘holy spirit’. It’s similar to how the Goy errand boys in Washington do the Jew’s bidding but they are still just Goy to be used for the Jew global cause.
These ‘Gentiles’ / ‘Goyim’ could also be partakers of all the promises of the Kingdom just like their Jew masters, but when all is said and done, they will never be the chosen ones…God’s select.
Paul actually worked for Rome. Rome by that time had been infiltrated and succumbed to Jewish treachery.
* should say non Jews / not now Jews.
The Pillars and the pyramid with the “all seeing ” eye yes it is associated with the Masons which I hate . It allows those with lesser intelligence to leap-frog over those better than them in their place of employment . It is very strong in the UK police force and members of Royalty are in it . The “”great “” grand master of England is the queens near relative it is full of jews who know a good thing when they see it . I could have joined it or one of the other off-shoots but nothing in this life offered to me in the physical plane by this action can better my spirit . A relative joined and got promotion in the police force I have also had relative who were grand masters. I also have a 100 + old book on the masonic handshakes and actions and degrees . IT will never better your spiritual progress only hamper it. imhotep says =what about heaven ? The intuition of the posters here is correct I have total recall all the way back to being in the womb and before I didnt want to come here as I had some things to learn no I wasnt an evil person just somebody who abused their good health and never took enough though for the consequences of their actions in relation to others . Now I have learned and spend a lot of time supporting the poor-sick-old and have an absolute determination to make this world a better place , there is no heaven and hell as portrayed in the Bible yes you are no longer in pain and as no time exists you think of those you love and they are with you distance has no meaning you can travel by thought as you speak by thought there are no secrets you know all things even of each other but your thinking is of a higher level than that on earth . Contrary to established belief you do come back to learn again and again (as above so below ) till your spirit is one with well take your pick = a higher being /god the universe . Its all down to love an all encompassing Love .Your worries and bad thoughts leave you you are surrounded by a white light you feel PERFECT LOVE and PERFECT PEACE -nothing in this life is near it No money can buy it it is given to heal you from bad life experiences. I got that as a child due to my bad childhood I have never forgotten it.
This Creative force called Allah which is neither female nor male did not blame Eve for anything. Muslims believe unlike OT and NT That Eve and Adam both made a mistake and they repented thus they are examples of God’s original mercy.
Quran 75:36 “Does man think that he is to be left to wander aimless (or purposeless)?”
Taken from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3gI0sZ16k
Good morning Duncan.
This ‘masonic order’, I do believe..came out of KMT (Kemet / Egypt). Perhaps even before that, in the land of Kush. It’s associated with the king making processes of that region and time where the future King would become ‘dead’, travel to a celestial abode, learn, and then return ready to be King. It’s like an initiation ceremony.
However, the ‘tribe’ took that and plagiarized it, edited it, and for centuries have called it their own in its corrupted form. Originally it was along the lines of an alchemical process and trying to undergo a process of alchemy; body form altering into ethereal form or spirit form.
During that process of the tribe taking from KMT / Egypt, they then proceeded to blacklist the ‘Egyptians’ as being evil, and that they kept the tribe in slavery. They even took Egypt’s Ark of the Contract concept and made one of their own calling it the Ark of the Covenant.
Even today the present day rulers have erected in their cities, Egyptian obelisks. The Vatican also has on display Egyptian artifacts / replicas, along with a huge pinecone. The pine cone may be represent the Fibonacci system.
Wow imhotep,
Would you please share some study references for these fascinating tales?
Paul/Saul in my understanding did his work from modern day Turkey and there was no such thing as a “jew” at that time. So he could not have been as you say, “a jew”.
Please send me your correction and your references.
The obelisks in the Vatican, Washington DC, and the City of London are now indeed phallic idol monuments of our own impotence and inability to procreate in a Godly and humane way, since all three capitals fall far short of representing God and life on earth for all of us except the ones that consider this world their life and heaven to rule over.
You have definitely read some interesting books.
I would love to give them a read myself.
Regarding origin of the term, “Jew”, also relating to Jesus…here are two quotes by author Benjamin Freedman [3]:
“ It is an incontestable fact that the word ‘Jew’ did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word ‘Jew’ did not exist in any language. The word ‘Jew’ was introduced into the English for the first time in the 18th century when Sheridan used it in his play The Rivals, II,i, ‘She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew’“.
Regarding Jesus as a, “Jew”:
“ Jesus is referred as a so-called ‘Jew’ for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called ‘Jew’ in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English. The history of the origin of the word ‘Jew’ in the English language leaves no doubt that the 18th century ‘Jew’ is the 18th century contracted and corrupted English word for the 4th century Latin “Iudaeus” found in St. Jerome’s Vulgate Edition. Of that there is no longer doubt.” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/29/the-israeli-regime-is-suicidal/
One can call Paul / Saul a so called ‘jew’ because he was of what I and others refer to as ‘the tribe’. As Blake said, apparently the term ‘jew’ was coined later but that does not negate that his lineage was form these apparent ‘chosen ones’. Names, labels, and terns change over the years.
I see no scientific evidence that a ‘jew’, chosen one, Hebrew, member of the tribe, Israelites, etc..were or are having a distinct racial DNA code. I lean more towards the idea that making those claims are fraudulent and the tribe consists of those viewing the World with a certain philosophy and having certain psychological traits. The entire story is concocted. There is no such thing as a Palestinian? Well, I say there is no such thing as chosen one, jew / jewish race, etc.
Everything of their creation story is written by them and there is no proof of any of it. It’s like discussing a Harry Potter book or Jack and the Bean Stalk. People can discuss these books in great detail but that’s all they are; books. It doesn’t make the books true. Or discussing what is written in the 9/11 Commission Report does not make all the words in it as being truthful.
What ‘tales’ are you referring to? Kemet? Paul / Saul? Kemet’s king making ceremony? Masonry? The Ark of the Contract?
Here are some quotes taken from many types of bibles. Paul / Saul, in these books, claims that he is a ‘jew’. Now, if these are not correct in these Christian biblical texts, then how many other things are not correct in these Christian New Testament bibles?
#19. Regarding the ceremony undergone by the Pharaoh. There is a book called The Winged Pharaoh by Joan Grant (written circa 1935) in which she describes this experience in amazing detail. Joan Grant wrote the “Far Memory” reincarnation series and her insight into the life of the times is beyond belief. One of the most engaging books ever. The experience undergone by the young author is exciting and spiritually awing. Upon undergoing this she became “The Winged Pharaoh” to carry on her part in rulership. The book is possibly out of print now, I committed the high crime of stealing it from the Toronto library back in the mid 1970’s and it is still one of my greatest treasures and would long ago have been in the dustbins.
Quran 83:12-15 : “Those that deny the Day of Judgment.And none can deny it but the Transgressor beyond bounds the Sinner!When Our Signs are rehearsed to him, he says “Tales of the Ancients!”
By no means! But on their hearts is the stain of the (ill) which they do!Verily, from (the Light of) their Lord, that Day, will they be veiled.”
At one point in life we understand that it is the Creator that should dictate beliefs not the other way around……. but it takes humblesness or meekness to accept His message.
Taken from surah 83 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxRZJj7wVI
Typo : Humbleness.
Hello nooralhaqiqa. Glad you got your book. 🙂
@28 and many other his comments here.
“And the governor was greatly affected. He had Paul scourged and drove him out of the city, but Thecla he condemned to be burned. And forthwith the governor arose and went off to the theater, and all the crowd went out to the unavoidable spectacle. But Thecla sought Paul, as a lamb in the wilderness looks about for the shepherd. And when she looked upon the crowd, she saw the Lord sitting in the form of Paul and said: “As if I were not able to endure, Paul has come to look after me.” And she looked steadily at him; but he departed into the heavens.”
Yeah imo, I have a few of those bullshit books as well.
This one is called, “The Other Bible”.
Gnostic Gospels. Visionary Wisdom. Christian Apocrypha. Jewish Pseudepigrapha and Kabbalah.
Its none sense that is good for nothing but collecting dust on one of my shelves.
It’s only good if you are clever enough to not predicate it as truth before you open it.
It is also effective Hasbara for the ‘preachers’ that push and promote this rubbish as truth.
You seem to be selling a lemon as a top of the line, grade A vehicle imo.
Me? I ain’t buying it.
Sr Noor 🙂 , I worry about returning things to the rightful owners so that I do not have to answer to Allah in the day of Judgement! If one forgets, God willing, there is forgiveness. I tell the sisters collectively to forgive especially when traveling away regarding any items I may not have returned….:) May Allah help us, collectively.
What will be the case of the Talmudic fraudsters? first they have a book that the rabbis penned then they have teachings that invert morality…….in surah mutaffifeen above it is said Woe to the fraudsters…….what about the biggest Fraud which is putting some rabbis and their opinions on the same level as God’s words or changing the words of God to their opinions? May they repent and follow the straight path and if not May we pass our judgement with ease and then get a front row seat to witness the judgement of these perverted transgressors. Amen.
Todd, for me all ‘religions’ are misleading. Sure, there can be a few one liners here and there that have ethical quality but overall, they miss the mark.
I am one to believe that ‘creation’ and the concept of a ‘God’ came out of Africa. From there, there have been thousand of turns, twists, and angles. But even in those times long, long ago in the heart of Africa, even they were still searching.
The Gnostics were but another group with their own views, and those views intermingled with the views of others. The Gnostics came along long after the scientific and spiritual knowledge of the Black people of Africa. The Greeks took that knowledge from Africa and cobbled it up for the most part, but still like to claim that the Greeks were the foundation of such knowledge.
Quran 18:56
Surah Kahf
“But We send [Our] message-bearers only as heralds of glad tidings and as warners – whereas those who are bent on denying the truth contend [against them] with fallacious arguments, so as to render void the truth thereby, and to make My messages and warnings a target of their mockery.”
Truth stands clear from falsehood and indeed falsehood has many paths…….May Allah ease the way of truth-seekers and those who wish to follow the path of guidance…..:)
MJ, so in the end according to the books, a great battle of the ‘end times’ is coming. It will be the forces of good against he forces of ‘evil’? Who are the ‘evil’? Is it those that do not believe as you and your group? Even the ‘jews’ do this. Goy on one side of the battle lines and the ‘jew’ tribe on the other. Jew is on the side of truth and the goy on the ‘evil’ side?
These religions create their enemies so if your end times is drawing near, and me being a non believer….your group seeks to kill me and others that do not believe as you do. That is the bottom line and what the future is according to your faith. You’re either with us or against us..and I have heard that before.
@imho,
“Sure there can be a few one liners here and there that have ethical quality but overall they miss the mark.”
But yet, we should be sure that you have hit the bullseye.
Hmmmm?
Well, for me, I have history with these gnostic cunts(sorry ladies).
I met your little shallow piss ass debate in the eye at an AIPAC ritual here in my city.
I chatted with your base while not letting them know my own affiliations.
It was like some attempt by them to convert me from my own sense of reasoning to
some lower level of abbreviated consciousness.
I get the same feeling from you imho.
Just sayin
Actually imhotep it will be people of different beliefs against others, do not presume….., we are allowed to have alliances. This site is one btw……
Some of our co-religionists will be on the wrong side thinking they are doing good deeds so it is a time of massive confusion.
May Allah help us make the right decisions and distinguish the wrong from the right.
Some of the prophecies….. regarding these really sad times.
Attention is drawn by the following hadiths/prophetic sayings and prophecies:
The worsening economic conditions at the end of time:
Everybody complaining about less and less income… Respecting the rich for their money… (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 146)
Stagnant markets, diminishing income… (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 148)
Business worsening. Everybody will be complaining saying, “I can’t sell or buy or earn anything!” (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 152)
Wars and Anarchy
Allah’s Messenger (saas) said: “The Harj (will increase).” They asked, “What is the Harj?” He replied, “(It is) killing (murdering), (it is) murdering (killing).” (Bukhari)
The Hour will come when violence, bloodshed, and anarchy become common. (Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal))
The world will not come to an end until a day would come to the people on which there will be general massacre and bloodshed. (Muslim)
Corruption:
Corruption has appeared in both land and sea because of what people’s own hands have brought about so that they may taste something of what they have done so that hopefully they will turn back. (Quran: Surah Rum: 41)
Destruction of cities:
NB >Great cities will be ruined and it will be as if they had not existed the day before. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi’ ‘Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman)
Earthquakes:
The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until … earthquakes will be very frequent. (Bukhari)
There are two great incidents before the day of Judgment… and then years of earthquakes. (Narrated by Umm Salama (r.a.)
The weakening of moral values and a sense of shame is described in these words:
The Last Hour will not be established until they (wicked people) commit adultery on the roads (public ways). (Ibn Hibban and al-Bazzar)
Men will imitate women; and Women will imitate men. (Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, Durre-Mansoor)
People will indulge in homosexuality and lesbianism (Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal)
Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread… (Bukhari)
There will come a time upon the Ummat when people will recite the Qur’an, but it will not go further than their throats, (into their hearts). (Bukhari)
A time will come when a man will not care about how he gets things, whether lawful or unlawful. (Bukhari)
Allah’s Messenger (saas) said, “In the End Times men will come forth who will fraudulently use religion for worldly ends and wear sheepskins in public to display meekness. Their tongues will be sweeter than sugar, but their hearts will be the hearts of wolves.” (Tirmidhi)
In the End Times of the community of the faithful, people, those who adorn the mosques but leave their own hearts in ruins, who fail to look after their religion as much as they do their clothes, who forsake their religious obligations for the sake of their activities in this world, will increase in number. (Agreed upon)
The Last Hour will not be established until there will remain those people who will neither be aware of the virtures and never prevent the vices. (Ahmad)
Near the establishment of the Hour, good deeds will decrease. (Bukhari)
The Hour will come when voices are raised in the mosques. (Tirmidhi)
The Hour will come when leaders are oppressors. (Al-Haythami, Kitab al-Fitan)
There will come a time for my people when… the mosques will be full of people but they will be empty of right guidance. (Agreed upon)
A time will come when the hypocrites will live secretly among you, and the faithful will try to live their religion in secret among others. (Agreed upon)
Undoubtedly, a period will come upon people wherein not a single person will be saved from indulging in interest. If anyone avoids direct indulgence in interest, yet he will not escape from the smoke (effects) thereof.. Its effects will somehow reach him. (Narrated by Abu Hurairah)
There will be years of deceit, in which a truthful person will be disbelieved and a liar will be believed. (Ibn Kathir)
The time will be years of confusion. People will believe a liar, and disbelieve one who tells the truth. People will distrust one who is trustworthy, and trust one who is treacherous. (Ahmad)
The day of Judgment will not come until the very lowest people are the happiest. (Tirmidhi)
There are more but for the sake of space……..
Todd, if you have any questions, ask please. People go off and down some course when they assume things. Its really a waste of effort.
I do not have a gnostic base, or an African base, or an atheist base, or a scientific base. If one talks about an organization, or a scientific theory, or whatever subject..it does not mean that they agree with that theory, philosophy, group, or whatever the case may be.
I do not believe in organized religions but that does not then equate to me being a follower of Darwin, or that humans evolved from apes due to environmental pressures.
And I have never claimed to be hitting the mark. Again, you make unnecessary arguments and complaints. There are many, many mysteries in this World and I find many subject matters extremely interesting.
You come across as being an American. Are you? I say this because instead of speaking with another…you have a tendency to speak AT another. You don’t exchange information or share ideas and beliefs. You seem to be simply getting emotional and throwing off steam in a juvenile manner.
Like I said, if you have questions then please ask.
MJ, do you believe that the recent earthquake in Nepal was the work of your God, and that part of that work was to destroy the ‘pagan’ temples there and kill many people?
No imhotep, it is just a sign of the end times.
“In the Qur’an, there are certain verses that point out the relation between earthquakes and the End Times. The 99th Surah is called Surat az-Zalzala; zalzala means great shaking, or earthquake. This Surah, composed of eight verses, describes the violent shaking of the earth and states that, following it, the Judgment Day will arrive, people will be raised from the dead, will give account of themselves to Allah, and receive their just rewards, even for the slightest thing that they have done:”
When the earth is convulsed with its quaking
and the earth then disgorges its charges
and man asks, “What is wrong with it?”,
on that Day it will impart all its news
because your Lord has inspired it.
That Day people will emerge segregated to see the results of their actions.
Whoever does an atom’s weight of good will see it.
Whoever does an atom’s weight of evil will see it.
(Surat az-Zalzala: 1-8)
Imhotep there is a African American shaykh who discusses and studied world history.
Hope you find this series interesting and you can contact him if you have questions as well. Enjoy!
Abdullah Hakim Quick – Untold Stories of World History 01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_E-J5Sfhc
Ps He discusses the faiths in Africa he just got back from living extensively in Africa.
I had attended a masjed for almost three years in my past. I always search and I search in many areas. There are some things in the Abrahamic religions that can be useful in my opinion but those things that I see as ‘useful’, are from far, far earlier cultures. They were picked up.
Yes, there are many beliefs and angles on Africa. Who is 100 % correct or even 80% correct? This can happen in every single issue or subject matter that we humans become involved in. Everybody is different.
Yesterday I watched a video of Graham Hancock talking about Gobekli Tepe located in Turkey. He was describing the ruins as the most ancient yet to be discovered, and how they could very possibly be tied in to the people of ancient Malta. So form his stand, he sees Gobekli Tepe as THE oldest. Yet I, and others disagree. Or take the case of Africans that support the concept that Black people ruled ancient Egypt (Kemet /KMT) and the lands further south that were known as Punt & Kush. Ok..for me I have no problem with that and that they are the founders of all sorts of scientific information however, they can not explain on just how these massive temples were constructed. Same goes for places in Bolivia, Mexico, and Peru.
It is also interesting on how radiation can create mutations / evolution in chromosomes. Not just the radiation coming from nuclear material but solar / cosmic radiation. And with the Earth’s magnetic field apparently weakening, is that contributing to the bio – chemistry changes happening on the planet? Is that why fish and other species are dying in mass? Did these chromosomal mutations play a part in development in Earth’s history?
These global catastrophes happen in cycles. Earth’s geological records shows this clearly. Ice ages, mass extinctions, mass explosions of new life forms, great displays of physics in the sky, etc…these were recorded by Earth itself and/or by the human species. In my opinion, I believe that we ( we as a planet, a part of the solar system, and as a part in an intricate and inner woven galaxy ) are in the stages of experiencing these physics once again. The frequencies are changing and as a result, it is altering the macro and the micro.
I do not believe in the idea that an angry God created earthquakes and diseases, and placed hexes and curses on humans. For me, this is taking natural laws of physics (known or yet unknown) and putting a face to them. This planet is a predatory planet. That fact is all around us in the jungles, on the plains, in the seas and oceans. Even millions of years ago when great dinosaur species walked and swam, it was a predatory planet. It still is . This is the reality of this Life in this time. There are some very very terrible people on this planet. Others are just bad, insincere, dishonest, manipulative, deceptive, etc, etc. Its why we put locks on our doors or have people sign things with their signatures, etc.
Allah’s names and attributes are not similar to that of His Creation. Needless to say when we say he is the All knower, All provider etc that is dissimilar to the knowledge of humans or their abilities at provision.
With regard to Tawheed al-Asma’ wa’l-Sifaat (Oneness of the Divine Names and Attributes), this means affirming the names and attributes of Allaah and believing that there is none like unto Allaah in His names and attributes. This Tawheed is based on two principles:
1 – Affirmation: i.e., affirming that which Allaah has affirmed for Himself in His Book or that His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has affirmed of His beautiful names and sublime attributes in a manner that suits the Majesty and Greatness of Allaah, without distorting them, twisting their meanings, denying their reality or discussing how they are.
2 – Denial: i.e., denying that Allaah has any faults and denying any shortcomings that He has denied Himself. The evidence for that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):
“There is nothing like Him, and He is the All‑Hearer, the All‑Seer”
[al-Shoora 42:11]
So He has denied that He bears any resemblance to His creation, and affirmed that He has attributes of perfection in a manner that befits Him, may He be glorified.
Note well Imhotep, Muslims were pioneers in the study of physics
You are beating a dead horse with me when it comes to quoting all the books of organized religions. Like I have said; they all have their own unique twists and turns, and at times they cross over and blend.
The Quran follows the jew book in many ways. And the jew book has its origins in Kemet, which has its origins in Nubia / Kush…which then has its origins on the Congo & Rwanda region.
I find it interesting that he great stone temples of KMT, Peru, Mexico, Bolivia, and Lebanon have huge stone works and cannot be explained in how the stones were quarried, transported, and then erected. But there is a definite fact that over time, each period afterwards used smaller and smaller stones.
The buildings of the Gothic period are impressive but do not have the huge stones. The Romans had impressive works but are a bit lesser than those before them; the Greeks. The Greeks did not come close to matching the work of Africa, or Central & South America. It is as if something that was once achievable; had / has become lost.
Getting back to the roads and alleyways that religions have taken, I take note of Paul / Saul. Before him, one view was that the Jesus Christ was a separate entity, one that can be seen, touched, heard, to be able to sit down with; and actual being. Paul took the Jesus Christ and placed JC inside us; that we all have that so called ‘divine spark’. I do agree with that part and that can be traced to what has been termed as mysticism. To me. Paul was an offshoot of the beliefs of mysticism.
The roots of what has been termed as ‘mysticism’ recognizes that we as humans in this existence, have an eternal spark so to speak, and many have searched for the elixir of Life. The ceremonies of KMT ( of birth, death, and rebirth ) were to journey to meet the Creator face to face and then return to Earth..just as Ausar (Osiris) did. This Creator would then judge the deeds and this can be seen on the artwork in Egypt / KMT.
Sufi Islam, the Kabbalah, and others are attached to the concept of ‘mysticism’ as are organized religions of the Abrahamic systems. But mainstream mysticism, in it’s past, was driven underground due to the threats and acts of organized religions. And mysticism itself, is attached to alchemy ( al chemy or al kemy; Kemet). Not the type of alchemy that the ignorant Greeks and others focused on, but the alchemy of undergoing a transformation of energy.
Many mystics were torched and set ablaze. They were ‘witch hunts’ in their own way. And ‘witchcraft’ has also been blacklisted over time. These people were viewed upon as being akin to the devil and up to all sorts of no good. ‘Witchcraft’ was a way of knowing the physics and laws of nature and the Universe, and they also used natural, organic healing practices.
Many,many areas over the centuries have had a systemic approach of being silenced or driven underground by the so called ‘righteous ones’ of truth. And the victors usually write history.
One more thing pagan people who have no knowledge of Islam do not get judged with us they have a separate meeting with the Creator……..
We are saddened by the events that have happened in Nepal.
May Allah ease the pain who meet challenges in this life.
Done with this thread……cheers……..:)
.As we say in Islam,” to you your way and to me mine.”
Yes, for years this LIE, that is Israe-LIE (identity thieves), has threatened the West if she doesn’t get what she wants. Allowing this heathen anti-christ people to become nuclear armed shows clearly the ignorance and insanity of the “Christian” West, who has been taught the ‘jew’ is the people of the Book. Think we will reap what we’ve sown ?? Jesus Christ said the thief comes to kill, steal, and destroy. Do you think the Edomite-jews fit the category ??
ed note–the people who killed Jesus Christ were not ‘Edomite Jews’ They were the real deal, following their Torah as handed down by Moses and which instructed them to kill any ‘dreamer of dreams’ who resided amongst them.
Get off this ridiculous Christian Identity nonsense. As someone with an Anglo-Saxon/northern European background, you are NOT descendants of semites from the Levant as your ridiculous theory of white chosenness postulates. If you did your research you would know that the entire Christian Identity/British Israelism theory was the brainchild of a jew named Ben Menasche who used it as the pretext for the jews being readmitted into England after they had been expelled by Edward III.
Didn’t this Jesus Christ in the book say that he came to not do away with the Law but to uphold it, and that his Father sent him?
ed note–yes, he did say that, but never referred to his father as ‘yahweh’ or any of the other violent hebrew gods that the jews worshipped. He also substituted the 613 laws of moses into only 2–loving God and loving your fellow man, so to try to make the case that Jesus was a supporter of/follower of all the Mosaic bs is an error.
The problem of Judaism is that it is mainly a physical religion .Most of the laws of it involve a total control of your physical behaviour in relation to non-jews -every area of life is covered ,every aspect of it is racist in both religion and ethnicity. This “religion ” has taken over and controls the Western World . Where is the mass of jews saying- we sympathise with you or we will pray for you where is the tenderness -the love or care for others not Jewish ?? So to me it is not a spiritual religion in the real sense but a declaration of war against humanity . Where are the great Jewish givers to the non -jew poor-sick-old ??? .No, like Shylock they sit in a darkened room counting their shekels and yet they say =we are the chosen people this is why people inside themselves (call it intuition ) know there is something far wrong with them . How can god possibly say =they are doing my work ?? Only if the same god is the god of vengeance and destruction who tells the jews to wipe out all nations that oppose them and they take that to mean as still applying in the year 2015. So wanting WW3 nuke war comes naturally to them -they just dont give a Damn for us and thats the truth !
Mark, was Jesus a jew? When the traitor judas ratted him out he received 30 silver pieces but the rate for a wanted jewish man was 50 pieces and 40 for a jewish women and 30 for non jews. Was he Galatian?
Apparently Pilate thought he was a Jew. Matthew 27:37; “And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”
In “Jesus in the Talmud” by Peter Schafer it tells us Yeshu ( Talmudic acronym for “Yimach Shmo V’Zichro” — May his name and memory be obliterated) Ben Pandera’s real father was a Palestinian Gentile serving in the Roman army – and his mother a whore. So not a Jew.
Miss Vickie, the sign over Jesus’ head read, “Jesus the Nazarene(One that has dedicated his life to God is the definition for Nazarene/ There was no township of Nazareth until after His crucifixion and resurrection), King of the Judeans”.
So the sign read,
Jesus the Nazarene
King of the Judeans
@ #4 by Ostmann
The contention of Christian belief in the Bible story is that Jesus was the prophesied messiah of the Jews, so he must have been a Jew.
No Gentile religion before Christianity prophesies any messiah from the OT, Torah or Talmud, or any messiah from within the Jewish/Israelite tradition who would eventually become a messiah of the Gentiles also.
The messiah was not prophesied by Jewish/Israelite religion to eventually lead a universal Gentile religion, or indeed even an all inclusive amalgam of Jews/Israelites and Gentiles in some new vastly expanded definition of ‘chosen’ people.
If Jesus were not a Jew, then he most certainly could never have been the messiah prophesied in OT religion, and we can be sure that the Jews themselves would never have accepted any Gentile as their messiah. Rather, they would accept only a Jew as their messiah.
As such a supposedly Gentile Jesus could not actually be the messiah prophesied by the Jews for their religion, then it follows that a Gentile Jesus is therefore not valid to be the prophesied Jewish messiah whom the Christians assert would eventually become the Christian messiah, whilst no Jewish Torah or Talmud prophecy states that the Jewish messiah will become any Christian messiah for the benefit of the Gentiles. The messiah of the Jews will be (he has not come yet, as Jesus never fulfilled all the prophecies for that time that would have to have been fulfilled in order for him to have been the valid messiah), for the Jews/Israelites alone, not the Gentile peoples.
Whether or not the messiah can be accepted in scripture as actually needing to come twice, we can see from the following OT texts that one of these, if indeed any more comings of any messiah are required more than that, must indeed be Jewish.
If we even accept that a second messianic coming is required, then surely, with the second coming at least being definitely stipulated as having to be Jewish/ Israelite/Chosen bloodline, then surely, the first messianic coming also would be Jewish/Israelite/Chosen bloodline.
The following texts demonstrate how the messiah must come from the line of King David, and thus be Jewish; from http://www.ldolphin.org/messiah.html
“The Messiah, to be the genuine Messiah, must therefore resemble King David — He must not only be a royal descendant from David’s house; like David, He must also born in Bethlehem, and like the direct physical son of David, Solomon, He must be a Person who will establish peace and justice over the whole earth, beginning in the city of Jerusalem.
“In the Tanach (the Hebrew Scriptures), the Person of the Messiah is so identified with King David that He is sometimes even named “David” as in Ezekiel 37:25:
“Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever.
“But like David He will also be a Man of war – a Lion of Judah who will fight for His people Israel, trampling in the winepress of His wrath the nations that have come to swallow up Israel. As Zechariah prophesies:
“Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, from east to west, making a very large valley; half of the mountain shall move toward the north and half of it toward the south. Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, for the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. It shall come to pass in that day that there will be no light; the lights will diminish. It shall be one day which is known to the Lord – neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen that it will be light. And in that day it shall be that living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, half of them toward the eastern sea and half of them toward the western sea; in both summer and winter it shall occur. And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be — “the Lord is one,” and His name one. (Zechariah 14:3-9)
“So the Messiah is not just One Who is brought as ‘a Lamb to the slaughter’ (Isaiah 53:7); He will also will be like a roaring Lion — “the Lion of Judah.”
“There are equally many passages in the Scriptures which describe clearly and forcefully this aspect of the coming Messiah. He will in the end days go out to war for His people:
“The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up His zeal like a man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies. (Isaiah 42:13)
“Who is this who comes from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah, this One who is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of His strength? — “I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.” Why is Your apparel red, and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress? “I have trodden the winepress alone, and from the peoples no one was with Me. For I have trodden them in My anger, and trampled them in My fury; Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments, and I have stained all My robes. For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come. I looked, but there was no one to help, and I wondered that there was no one to uphold; therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me; and My own fury, it sustained Me. I have trodden down the peoples in My anger, made them drunk in My fury, and brought down their strength to the earth.” (Isaiah 63:1-6)
“However He will also be the spiritual guide to His people, a prophet like Moses — a High Priest and Prophet combined, like Moses and Aaron in One, who will guide His people in all matters of faith and Torah, eclipsing the need for a chief Rabbi or a Chief Rabbinate in His days!”
Thank you Mark for refutting the utter insanity of “Christian Identity”. Jews are Jews. For a European,or any other peoples ,to think they are not,or to identify with the ‘real ones’,is the most insane kof cons. This nonsense took off among the hidius Puritans,of the Anglo-Saxon societies,shifting the Gentie world into worshipping Yahweh,or Jews,and not their own universal deities,Hellenistic world views,and negates the New Covenant of Christ. “Identity”,which is Zio-Christianity,on Steroids is utterly illogical,culturally blind,and lacks even simple common sense. So according to CI,the way,we beat theJews is to deny they are,’authentic,’and claim gentiles should adopt,the tribal,hate ‘God’,Yahweh !
All of this Boils down to the worship of the Jew God,Yahweh. He made it very clear,his hatred of the whole world except his Chosen People theJews….worship them,or perish. War,after Jew vwar,has been fought to make the Jews supreme. Cultures distorted,economies enslaved,Christianity altered,and the entire gentile world view subject to Yahweh/Jews! Thou shalt have no other God(s),but Yahweh. That means everything must go,but him…….obey,or YOU must be annihilated! See;BOLSHEVISM FROM MOSES TO LENIN,Eckhart. YAWHEW GOD OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER & SYNAGOGUE OF SATURN ,You Tube. THE SAMPSON OPTION ,Hersh.
I must add,and it is this simple. The “Messiah”,of the Jews is not a universal savior,but the manifestation of Yahweh,the Jews exclusive diety. He will reign for them alone ! Gentiles to be enslaved. His symbol is 666. The six sided star,or Shield of Saturn ! “What is above is below”.The Jews have done all they can,to cover this,but their flag cannot be denied.
@ ed re. your comment to imhotep
From http://www.theologyonline.com/DEATH.HTML
“Jesus affirmed the Mosaic Law even to the keeping of the “least of these commandments” (Mat. 5:17-19). He blasted the Pharisees for giving their own ideas precedence over God’s commands:
“Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying… `He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say…” Mat. 15:3-4
“For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” [Jesus] said to them,
“All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother; and ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say…” Mark 7:8-11
Matthew 5:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
King James Version (KJV)
by Public Domain
From https://carm.org/are-christians-under-the-law
“Christians are not under the Law because they have died to the Law. They have died with Christ, and those who have died are not bound by the Law.
“for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, neither is there violation,” (Rom. 4:15).
“knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, that our body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin,” (Rom. 6:6).
“Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,” (Rom. 6:8).
“Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God,” (Rom. 7:4).
“But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter,” (Rom. 7:6).
“So, Christians have died with Christ. They are identified with Christ so closely that it can be said that when Christ died, they died with him. Since Christians have died with him, they are no longer under the Law because he who has died is freed from the Law (Rom. 7:6). That is why Christians are not obligated to keep the Law of God in order to be saved from God’s righteous judgment. Christians are saved from that requirement and penalty.”
Surely, those who have not yet surrendered to Jesus, and thus have not yet died with him, and then passed beyond death and beyond the applicability of the material law that relates only to this material world and those remaining in it, are still under the law, which Jesus states still exists in it’s original mosaic completeness till the end of the Earth. Maybe that Mosaic law is only intended to apply to the people from whom it originated, but that people certainly mean it to affect other peoples as well, and in a manner that is not the same as for their own people, such as where some crimes do not merit a death penalty for Jews, but the same crime brings a death penalty only for Gentiles, such as will apply when the 1991 US Noahide Laws are fully effected.
The Jesus of the Bible and his ‘God’, whoever he really is, is still far too violent to be the real God. The real God can use ‘violence’ in this temporal world of dreamlike maya, to occasionally dissolve this entire material universe for example, or to defeat demonic armies for example as in the Battle of Kurukshetra, which He acts out repeatedly as in a play, on each material planet in the cosmos, with all demonic participants who ‘die’ then being liberated and waking back up in the true world, the eternal spiritual world, but such violence is always educative ultimately in the path of the Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam, which ultimately restores all souls back to full spiritual consciousness of the spiritual world, rejecting none, but when Jesus, and whoever his ‘God’ is, threaten eternal existence cast out from God for those who ‘sin’, and intend to send those ‘sinners’ to some place of eternal punishment in literal burning fire, the Lord God Krishna who provided the Bhagavad Gita surely cannot accept that threat as having come from God, or that ‘God’ of Jesus as really being God, as He Himself does not actually reject even one single soul for all eternity, and most especially He never tortures even a single soul for all eternity, so the God of Jesus is not God at all.
https://carm.org/hell-eternal
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/10/04/ten-foundational-verses-for-eternal-punishment-in-hell/
Good morning MG. I will reply later if that is OK. I have to meet some folks soon.
I am not an argumentative type of person actually. I do find ancient cultures and the paths that humans have taken as extremely interesting. Its a wide topic and includes many subjects and religion is one of those subjects.
Personally, and at the heart of my views, I believe that religions…organized religions…are in part, a means to try to explain a great (and somewhat unexplainable as of yet) force or energy. Alchemy, the mystery schools, occultism, and the likes have been painted with a black and forbidden brush but there is more to it than that.
Bibles have a long list of Jesuses. in the many bibles. Barabbas was also a Jesus. Bar means ‘son of, and Abbas means father. Son of the Father. It relates back to the 2 Pillars. One is Jachin and the other pillar is Boaz. These 2 pillars will support Shalom, universal peace…being held in place by the 2 pillars.
These are prominent in Freemasonic literature and artwork as well.
If this Jesus Christ condemned the Laws of Moses or even made some of those Laws obsolete, Christ still recognizes them as having been valid in the history of the so called Jews. In other words, they (the Laws of Moses) were needed and required but now, since the arrival of the Jewish Messiah, they are no longer needed.
I would disagree that there is not a connection with Jesus Christ and that of Adam & Eve story in a Garden of Eden, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, etc. It is all connected just as the NT is connected to the OT. It is the same so called ‘Father’.
This same ‘Father’ created a Garden, put in two creatures called Adam and Eve, they disobeyed the Father, and the World has been cursed ever since with most of the blame being out upon the female gender. This same Father moved Abram / Abraham and this Father is attached to all the events of the OT and the NT.
The Talmud differs of that of the Torah, which in turn the Kabbalah also has different views and projections. In part, this all adds to further divisions the same way Democrat & Republican parties can keep divisions, and lead to even further divisions amongst these two parties. Even Jews are picking and choosing what specific Jewish sect they want to belong too. There is even a Jews For Jesus divide. Jews can be and are just as ignorant as non Jews.
“King David”, as it is written, was a homosexual. He was infatuated and in love with another man. Later, when he became infatuated with a married woman, he set it up so that the woman’s husband would be killed in battle so that he could then marry her. There is nothing holy or even ethically unique about this so called bloodline.
These are apocalyptic beliefs where in the “end times” there will be a great battle, The forces of evil against the forces of good. All those that are defined as being evil will be slaughtered by the ‘good’. And the Messiah with his army of angelic beings will take part in this slaughter. Who is correct? Muslims? Jews? Christians?……Hindus…Buddhists? It al comes down, in these apocalyptic religions, that battle lines will obviously be drawn in an epic event where one is either with them or against them.
And what about this ‘heaven’? Where is it? On the other side of the Universe, another planet, another dimension, on Earth? If so many people are dying so they can reach this heaven, I think it is important to know a little bit about it. If there is another ‘God’ in a bible other that the one continuously mentioned known as YHWH, Abba, Yahovah, Lord, or Father, where specifically in a bible does it demonstrate that another ‘God’ existed other than the one that created the Adam & Eve / Garden of Eden bloodline?
I should add that Paul / Saul of the New Testament is a Jew. He went about preaching long after Christ and Barabbas was said to have lived. It was also at a time in history when the ‘chosen ones’ were losing territory and a foothold in their so called ‘promised land’ in Canaan. They needed to bring others (now Jews) into their sect, but still not giving them ‘chosen one’ status. They did not have to be physically circumcised but could be circumcised by the ‘holy spirit’. It’s similar to how the Goy errand boys in Washington do the Jew’s bidding but they are still just Goy to be used for the Jew global cause.
These ‘Gentiles’ / ‘Goyim’ could also be partakers of all the promises of the Kingdom just like their Jew masters, but when all is said and done, they will never be the chosen ones…God’s select.
Paul actually worked for Rome. Rome by that time had been infiltrated and succumbed to Jewish treachery.
* should say non Jews / not now Jews.
The Pillars and the pyramid with the “all seeing ” eye yes it is associated with the Masons which I hate . It allows those with lesser intelligence to leap-frog over those better than them in their place of employment . It is very strong in the UK police force and members of Royalty are in it . The “”great “” grand master of England is the queens near relative it is full of jews who know a good thing when they see it . I could have joined it or one of the other off-shoots but nothing in this life offered to me in the physical plane by this action can better my spirit . A relative joined and got promotion in the police force I have also had relative who were grand masters. I also have a 100 + old book on the masonic handshakes and actions and degrees . IT will never better your spiritual progress only hamper it. imhotep says =what about heaven ? The intuition of the posters here is correct I have total recall all the way back to being in the womb and before I didnt want to come here as I had some things to learn no I wasnt an evil person just somebody who abused their good health and never took enough though for the consequences of their actions in relation to others . Now I have learned and spend a lot of time supporting the poor-sick-old and have an absolute determination to make this world a better place , there is no heaven and hell as portrayed in the Bible yes you are no longer in pain and as no time exists you think of those you love and they are with you distance has no meaning you can travel by thought as you speak by thought there are no secrets you know all things even of each other but your thinking is of a higher level than that on earth . Contrary to established belief you do come back to learn again and again (as above so below ) till your spirit is one with well take your pick = a higher being /god the universe . Its all down to love an all encompassing Love .Your worries and bad thoughts leave you you are surrounded by a white light you feel PERFECT LOVE and PERFECT PEACE -nothing in this life is near it No money can buy it it is given to heal you from bad life experiences. I got that as a child due to my bad childhood I have never forgotten it.
This Creative force called Allah which is neither female nor male did not blame Eve for anything. Muslims believe unlike OT and NT That Eve and Adam both made a mistake and they repented thus they are examples of God’s original mercy.
Quran 75:36 “Does man think that he is to be left to wander aimless (or purposeless)?”
Taken from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3gI0sZ16k
Good morning Duncan.
This ‘masonic order’, I do believe..came out of KMT (Kemet / Egypt). Perhaps even before that, in the land of Kush. It’s associated with the king making processes of that region and time where the future King would become ‘dead’, travel to a celestial abode, learn, and then return ready to be King. It’s like an initiation ceremony.
However, the ‘tribe’ took that and plagiarized it, edited it, and for centuries have called it their own in its corrupted form. Originally it was along the lines of an alchemical process and trying to undergo a process of alchemy; body form altering into ethereal form or spirit form.
During that process of the tribe taking from KMT / Egypt, they then proceeded to blacklist the ‘Egyptians’ as being evil, and that they kept the tribe in slavery. They even took Egypt’s Ark of the Contract concept and made one of their own calling it the Ark of the Covenant.
Even today the present day rulers have erected in their cities, Egyptian obelisks. The Vatican also has on display Egyptian artifacts / replicas, along with a huge pinecone. The pine cone may be represent the Fibonacci system.
Wow imhotep,
Would you please share some study references for these fascinating tales?
Paul/Saul in my understanding did his work from modern day Turkey and there was no such thing as a “jew” at that time. So he could not have been as you say, “a jew”.
Please send me your correction and your references.
The obelisks in the Vatican, Washington DC, and the City of London are now indeed phallic idol monuments of our own impotence and inability to procreate in a Godly and humane way, since all three capitals fall far short of representing God and life on earth for all of us except the ones that consider this world their life and heaven to rule over.
You have definitely read some interesting books.
I would love to give them a read myself.
Regarding origin of the term, “Jew”, also relating to Jesus…here are two quotes by author Benjamin Freedman [3]:
“ It is an incontestable fact that the word ‘Jew’ did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word ‘Jew’ did not exist in any language. The word ‘Jew’ was introduced into the English for the first time in the 18th century when Sheridan used it in his play The Rivals, II,i, ‘She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew’“.
Regarding Jesus as a, “Jew”:
“ Jesus is referred as a so-called ‘Jew’ for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called ‘Jew’ in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English. The history of the origin of the word ‘Jew’ in the English language leaves no doubt that the 18th century ‘Jew’ is the 18th century contracted and corrupted English word for the 4th century Latin “Iudaeus” found in St. Jerome’s Vulgate Edition. Of that there is no longer doubt.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/29/the-israeli-regime-is-suicidal/
One can call Paul / Saul a so called ‘jew’ because he was of what I and others refer to as ‘the tribe’. As Blake said, apparently the term ‘jew’ was coined later but that does not negate that his lineage was form these apparent ‘chosen ones’. Names, labels, and terns change over the years.
I see no scientific evidence that a ‘jew’, chosen one, Hebrew, member of the tribe, Israelites, etc..were or are having a distinct racial DNA code. I lean more towards the idea that making those claims are fraudulent and the tribe consists of those viewing the World with a certain philosophy and having certain psychological traits. The entire story is concocted. There is no such thing as a Palestinian? Well, I say there is no such thing as chosen one, jew / jewish race, etc.
Everything of their creation story is written by them and there is no proof of any of it. It’s like discussing a Harry Potter book or Jack and the Bean Stalk. People can discuss these books in great detail but that’s all they are; books. It doesn’t make the books true. Or discussing what is written in the 9/11 Commission Report does not make all the words in it as being truthful.
What ‘tales’ are you referring to? Kemet? Paul / Saul? Kemet’s king making ceremony? Masonry? The Ark of the Contract?
Here are some quotes taken from many types of bibles. Paul / Saul, in these books, claims that he is a ‘jew’. Now, if these are not correct in these Christian biblical texts, then how many other things are not correct in these Christian New Testament bibles?
http://biblehub.com/acts/21-39.htm
#19. Regarding the ceremony undergone by the Pharaoh. There is a book called The Winged Pharaoh by Joan Grant (written circa 1935) in which she describes this experience in amazing detail. Joan Grant wrote the “Far Memory” reincarnation series and her insight into the life of the times is beyond belief. One of the most engaging books ever. The experience undergone by the young author is exciting and spiritually awing. Upon undergoing this she became “The Winged Pharaoh” to carry on her part in rulership. The book is possibly out of print now, I committed the high crime of stealing it from the Toronto library back in the mid 1970’s and it is still one of my greatest treasures and would long ago have been in the dustbins.
Quran 83:12-15 : “Those that deny the Day of Judgment.And none can deny it but the Transgressor beyond bounds the Sinner!When Our Signs are rehearsed to him, he says “Tales of the Ancients!”
By no means! But on their hearts is the stain of the (ill) which they do!Verily, from (the Light of) their Lord, that Day, will they be veiled.”
At one point in life we understand that it is the Creator that should dictate beliefs not the other way around……. but it takes humblesness or meekness to accept His message.
Taken from surah 83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxRZJj7wVI
Typo : Humbleness.
Hello nooralhaqiqa. Glad you got your book. 🙂
@28 and many other his comments here.
“And the governor was greatly affected. He had Paul scourged and drove him out of the city, but Thecla he condemned to be burned. And forthwith the governor arose and went off to the theater, and all the crowd went out to the unavoidable spectacle. But Thecla sought Paul, as a lamb in the wilderness looks about for the shepherd. And when she looked upon the crowd, she saw the Lord sitting in the form of Paul and said: “As if I were not able to endure, Paul has come to look after me.” And she looked steadily at him; but he departed into the heavens.”
Yeah imo, I have a few of those bullshit books as well.
This one is called, “The Other Bible”.
Gnostic Gospels. Visionary Wisdom. Christian Apocrypha. Jewish Pseudepigrapha and Kabbalah.
Its none sense that is good for nothing but collecting dust on one of my shelves.
It’s only good if you are clever enough to not predicate it as truth before you open it.
It is also effective Hasbara for the ‘preachers’ that push and promote this rubbish as truth.
You seem to be selling a lemon as a top of the line, grade A vehicle imo.
Me? I ain’t buying it.
Sr Noor 🙂 , I worry about returning things to the rightful owners so that I do not have to answer to Allah in the day of Judgement! If one forgets, God willing, there is forgiveness. I tell the sisters collectively to forgive especially when traveling away regarding any items I may not have returned….:) May Allah help us, collectively.
What will be the case of the Talmudic fraudsters? first they have a book that the rabbis penned then they have teachings that invert morality…….in surah mutaffifeen above it is said Woe to the fraudsters…….what about the biggest Fraud which is putting some rabbis and their opinions on the same level as God’s words or changing the words of God to their opinions? May they repent and follow the straight path and if not May we pass our judgement with ease and then get a front row seat to witness the judgement of these perverted transgressors. Amen.
Todd, for me all ‘religions’ are misleading. Sure, there can be a few one liners here and there that have ethical quality but overall, they miss the mark.
I am one to believe that ‘creation’ and the concept of a ‘God’ came out of Africa. From there, there have been thousand of turns, twists, and angles. But even in those times long, long ago in the heart of Africa, even they were still searching.
The Gnostics were but another group with their own views, and those views intermingled with the views of others. The Gnostics came along long after the scientific and spiritual knowledge of the Black people of Africa. The Greeks took that knowledge from Africa and cobbled it up for the most part, but still like to claim that the Greeks were the foundation of such knowledge.
Quran 18:56
Surah Kahf
“But We send [Our] message-bearers only as heralds of glad tidings and as warners – whereas those who are bent on denying the truth contend [against them] with fallacious arguments, so as to render void the truth thereby, and to make My messages and warnings a target of their mockery.”
Truth stands clear from falsehood and indeed falsehood has many paths…….May Allah ease the way of truth-seekers and those who wish to follow the path of guidance…..:)
MJ, so in the end according to the books, a great battle of the ‘end times’ is coming. It will be the forces of good against he forces of ‘evil’? Who are the ‘evil’? Is it those that do not believe as you and your group? Even the ‘jews’ do this. Goy on one side of the battle lines and the ‘jew’ tribe on the other. Jew is on the side of truth and the goy on the ‘evil’ side?
These religions create their enemies so if your end times is drawing near, and me being a non believer….your group seeks to kill me and others that do not believe as you do. That is the bottom line and what the future is according to your faith. You’re either with us or against us..and I have heard that before.
@imho,
“Sure there can be a few one liners here and there that have ethical quality but overall they miss the mark.”
But yet, we should be sure that you have hit the bullseye.
Hmmmm?
Well, for me, I have history with these gnostic cunts(sorry ladies).
I met your little shallow piss ass debate in the eye at an AIPAC ritual here in my city.
I chatted with your base while not letting them know my own affiliations.
It was like some attempt by them to convert me from my own sense of reasoning to
some lower level of abbreviated consciousness.
I get the same feeling from you imho.
Just sayin
Actually imhotep it will be people of different beliefs against others, do not presume….., we are allowed to have alliances. This site is one btw……
Some of our co-religionists will be on the wrong side thinking they are doing good deeds so it is a time of massive confusion.
May Allah help us make the right decisions and distinguish the wrong from the right.
Some of the prophecies….. regarding these really sad times.
Attention is drawn by the following hadiths/prophetic sayings and prophecies:
The worsening economic conditions at the end of time:
Everybody complaining about less and less income… Respecting the rich for their money… (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 146)
Stagnant markets, diminishing income… (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 148)
Business worsening. Everybody will be complaining saying, “I can’t sell or buy or earn anything!” (Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Rasul Barzanji , Al-Isha‘ah li-ashrat al-sa‘ah, p. 152)
Wars and Anarchy
Allah’s Messenger (saas) said: “The Harj (will increase).” They asked, “What is the Harj?” He replied, “(It is) killing (murdering), (it is) murdering (killing).” (Bukhari)
The Hour will come when violence, bloodshed, and anarchy become common. (Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal))
The world will not come to an end until a day would come to the people on which there will be general massacre and bloodshed. (Muslim)
Corruption:
Corruption has appeared in both land and sea because of what people’s own hands have brought about so that they may taste something of what they have done so that hopefully they will turn back. (Quran: Surah Rum: 41)
Destruction of cities:
NB >Great cities will be ruined and it will be as if they had not existed the day before. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi’ ‘Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman)
Earthquakes:
The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until … earthquakes will be very frequent. (Bukhari)
There are two great incidents before the day of Judgment… and then years of earthquakes. (Narrated by Umm Salama (r.a.)
The weakening of moral values and a sense of shame is described in these words:
The Last Hour will not be established until they (wicked people) commit adultery on the roads (public ways). (Ibn Hibban and al-Bazzar)
Men will imitate women; and Women will imitate men. (Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, Durre-Mansoor)
People will indulge in homosexuality and lesbianism (Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal)
Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread… (Bukhari)
There will come a time upon the Ummat when people will recite the Qur’an, but it will not go further than their throats, (into their hearts). (Bukhari)
A time will come when a man will not care about how he gets things, whether lawful or unlawful. (Bukhari)
Allah’s Messenger (saas) said, “In the End Times men will come forth who will fraudulently use religion for worldly ends and wear sheepskins in public to display meekness. Their tongues will be sweeter than sugar, but their hearts will be the hearts of wolves.” (Tirmidhi)
In the End Times of the community of the faithful, people, those who adorn the mosques but leave their own hearts in ruins, who fail to look after their religion as much as they do their clothes, who forsake their religious obligations for the sake of their activities in this world, will increase in number. (Agreed upon)
The Last Hour will not be established until there will remain those people who will neither be aware of the virtures and never prevent the vices. (Ahmad)
Near the establishment of the Hour, good deeds will decrease. (Bukhari)
The Hour will come when voices are raised in the mosques. (Tirmidhi)
The Hour will come when leaders are oppressors. (Al-Haythami, Kitab al-Fitan)
There will come a time for my people when… the mosques will be full of people but they will be empty of right guidance. (Agreed upon)
A time will come when the hypocrites will live secretly among you, and the faithful will try to live their religion in secret among others. (Agreed upon)
Undoubtedly, a period will come upon people wherein not a single person will be saved from indulging in interest. If anyone avoids direct indulgence in interest, yet he will not escape from the smoke (effects) thereof.. Its effects will somehow reach him. (Narrated by Abu Hurairah)
There will be years of deceit, in which a truthful person will be disbelieved and a liar will be believed. (Ibn Kathir)
The time will be years of confusion. People will believe a liar, and disbelieve one who tells the truth. People will distrust one who is trustworthy, and trust one who is treacherous. (Ahmad)
The day of Judgment will not come until the very lowest people are the happiest. (Tirmidhi)
There are more but for the sake of space……..
Todd, if you have any questions, ask please. People go off and down some course when they assume things. Its really a waste of effort.
I do not have a gnostic base, or an African base, or an atheist base, or a scientific base. If one talks about an organization, or a scientific theory, or whatever subject..it does not mean that they agree with that theory, philosophy, group, or whatever the case may be.
I do not believe in organized religions but that does not then equate to me being a follower of Darwin, or that humans evolved from apes due to environmental pressures.
And I have never claimed to be hitting the mark. Again, you make unnecessary arguments and complaints. There are many, many mysteries in this World and I find many subject matters extremely interesting.
You come across as being an American. Are you? I say this because instead of speaking with another…you have a tendency to speak AT another. You don’t exchange information or share ideas and beliefs. You seem to be simply getting emotional and throwing off steam in a juvenile manner.
Like I said, if you have questions then please ask.
MJ, do you believe that the recent earthquake in Nepal was the work of your God, and that part of that work was to destroy the ‘pagan’ temples there and kill many people?
No imhotep, it is just a sign of the end times.
“In the Qur’an, there are certain verses that point out the relation between earthquakes and the End Times. The 99th Surah is called Surat az-Zalzala; zalzala means great shaking, or earthquake. This Surah, composed of eight verses, describes the violent shaking of the earth and states that, following it, the Judgment Day will arrive, people will be raised from the dead, will give account of themselves to Allah, and receive their just rewards, even for the slightest thing that they have done:”
When the earth is convulsed with its quaking
and the earth then disgorges its charges
and man asks, “What is wrong with it?”,
on that Day it will impart all its news
because your Lord has inspired it.
That Day people will emerge segregated to see the results of their actions.
Whoever does an atom’s weight of good will see it.
Whoever does an atom’s weight of evil will see it.
(Surat az-Zalzala: 1-8)
Imhotep there is a African American shaykh who discusses and studied world history.
Hope you find this series interesting and you can contact him if you have questions as well. Enjoy!
Abdullah Hakim Quick – Untold Stories of World History 01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_E-J5Sfhc
Ps He discusses the faiths in Africa he just got back from living extensively in Africa.
I had attended a masjed for almost three years in my past. I always search and I search in many areas. There are some things in the Abrahamic religions that can be useful in my opinion but those things that I see as ‘useful’, are from far, far earlier cultures. They were picked up.
Yes, there are many beliefs and angles on Africa. Who is 100 % correct or even 80% correct? This can happen in every single issue or subject matter that we humans become involved in. Everybody is different.
Yesterday I watched a video of Graham Hancock talking about Gobekli Tepe located in Turkey. He was describing the ruins as the most ancient yet to be discovered, and how they could very possibly be tied in to the people of ancient Malta. So form his stand, he sees Gobekli Tepe as THE oldest. Yet I, and others disagree. Or take the case of Africans that support the concept that Black people ruled ancient Egypt (Kemet /KMT) and the lands further south that were known as Punt & Kush. Ok..for me I have no problem with that and that they are the founders of all sorts of scientific information however, they can not explain on just how these massive temples were constructed. Same goes for places in Bolivia, Mexico, and Peru.
It is also interesting on how radiation can create mutations / evolution in chromosomes. Not just the radiation coming from nuclear material but solar / cosmic radiation. And with the Earth’s magnetic field apparently weakening, is that contributing to the bio – chemistry changes happening on the planet? Is that why fish and other species are dying in mass? Did these chromosomal mutations play a part in development in Earth’s history?
These global catastrophes happen in cycles. Earth’s geological records shows this clearly. Ice ages, mass extinctions, mass explosions of new life forms, great displays of physics in the sky, etc…these were recorded by Earth itself and/or by the human species. In my opinion, I believe that we ( we as a planet, a part of the solar system, and as a part in an intricate and inner woven galaxy ) are in the stages of experiencing these physics once again. The frequencies are changing and as a result, it is altering the macro and the micro.
I do not believe in the idea that an angry God created earthquakes and diseases, and placed hexes and curses on humans. For me, this is taking natural laws of physics (known or yet unknown) and putting a face to them. This planet is a predatory planet. That fact is all around us in the jungles, on the plains, in the seas and oceans. Even millions of years ago when great dinosaur species walked and swam, it was a predatory planet. It still is . This is the reality of this Life in this time. There are some very very terrible people on this planet. Others are just bad, insincere, dishonest, manipulative, deceptive, etc, etc. Its why we put locks on our doors or have people sign things with their signatures, etc.
Allah’s names and attributes are not similar to that of His Creation. Needless to say when we say he is the All knower, All provider etc that is dissimilar to the knowledge of humans or their abilities at provision.
With regard to Tawheed al-Asma’ wa’l-Sifaat (Oneness of the Divine Names and Attributes), this means affirming the names and attributes of Allaah and believing that there is none like unto Allaah in His names and attributes. This Tawheed is based on two principles:
1 – Affirmation: i.e., affirming that which Allaah has affirmed for Himself in His Book or that His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has affirmed of His beautiful names and sublime attributes in a manner that suits the Majesty and Greatness of Allaah, without distorting them, twisting their meanings, denying their reality or discussing how they are.
2 – Denial: i.e., denying that Allaah has any faults and denying any shortcomings that He has denied Himself. The evidence for that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):
“There is nothing like Him, and He is the All‑Hearer, the All‑Seer”
[al-Shoora 42:11]
So He has denied that He bears any resemblance to His creation, and affirmed that He has attributes of perfection in a manner that befits Him, may He be glorified.
Note well Imhotep, Muslims were pioneers in the study of physics
Convert To Islam Dr. Volker Enders [Physicist]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPwHxL3zuFw
You are beating a dead horse with me when it comes to quoting all the books of organized religions. Like I have said; they all have their own unique twists and turns, and at times they cross over and blend.
The Quran follows the jew book in many ways. And the jew book has its origins in Kemet, which has its origins in Nubia / Kush…which then has its origins on the Congo & Rwanda region.
I find it interesting that he great stone temples of KMT, Peru, Mexico, Bolivia, and Lebanon have huge stone works and cannot be explained in how the stones were quarried, transported, and then erected. But there is a definite fact that over time, each period afterwards used smaller and smaller stones.
The buildings of the Gothic period are impressive but do not have the huge stones. The Romans had impressive works but are a bit lesser than those before them; the Greeks. The Greeks did not come close to matching the work of Africa, or Central & South America. It is as if something that was once achievable; had / has become lost.
Getting back to the roads and alleyways that religions have taken, I take note of Paul / Saul. Before him, one view was that the Jesus Christ was a separate entity, one that can be seen, touched, heard, to be able to sit down with; and actual being. Paul took the Jesus Christ and placed JC inside us; that we all have that so called ‘divine spark’. I do agree with that part and that can be traced to what has been termed as mysticism. To me. Paul was an offshoot of the beliefs of mysticism.
The roots of what has been termed as ‘mysticism’ recognizes that we as humans in this existence, have an eternal spark so to speak, and many have searched for the elixir of Life. The ceremonies of KMT ( of birth, death, and rebirth ) were to journey to meet the Creator face to face and then return to Earth..just as Ausar (Osiris) did. This Creator would then judge the deeds and this can be seen on the artwork in Egypt / KMT.
Sufi Islam, the Kabbalah, and others are attached to the concept of ‘mysticism’ as are organized religions of the Abrahamic systems. But mainstream mysticism, in it’s past, was driven underground due to the threats and acts of organized religions. And mysticism itself, is attached to alchemy ( al chemy or al kemy; Kemet). Not the type of alchemy that the ignorant Greeks and others focused on, but the alchemy of undergoing a transformation of energy.
Many mystics were torched and set ablaze. They were ‘witch hunts’ in their own way. And ‘witchcraft’ has also been blacklisted over time. These people were viewed upon as being akin to the devil and up to all sorts of no good. ‘Witchcraft’ was a way of knowing the physics and laws of nature and the Universe, and they also used natural, organic healing practices.
Many,many areas over the centuries have had a systemic approach of being silenced or driven underground by the so called ‘righteous ones’ of truth. And the victors usually write history.
One more thing pagan people who have no knowledge of Islam do not get judged with us they have a separate meeting with the Creator……..
We are saddened by the events that have happened in Nepal.
May Allah ease the pain who meet challenges in this life.
Done with this thread……cheers……..:)
.As we say in Islam,” to you your way and to me mine.”